Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > Travel Technology
Reload this Page >

Discrimination against Android

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Discrimination against Android

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 12:06 am
  #1  
Original Poster
10 Countries Visited20 Countries Visited30 Countries Visited10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: All of them...
Posts: 384
Discrimination against Android

Why is this that many Airlines/Hotels & other travel website only make apps for iOS and not for Android? I feel like a second class citizen....

For example jetBlue, SPG, SeatGuru, MTA (NYC), Lufthansa (Magazin), Lufthansa Systems, Jeppesen, etc.
chff is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 2:29 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 634
- Higher average revenue per user for iOS than Android.

- A few years ago, there were more iOS users than Android users, though this is no longer true.

- Managers at these companies are more likely to have iOS devices than Android, so think about iOS more.

- Fundamentally, this all boils down to Apple's brand power among non-technical professionals. This is of course a result of Steve Jobs's genius for marketing.
acunningham is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 3:18 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: AC*E, Accor Platinum, Hilton Silver
Posts: 184
Also, it's cheaper to develop application for iOS. Variety of Android devices makes especially the test phase quite complicated. To create polished product that will work on any Android handset is not an easy thing.

It is not going to change for a while - only if the application is a success on iOS, it would then be slowly ported to Android.
dawk is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 3:21 am
  #4  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bay Area
Programs: BA - Blue
Posts: 4,721
A lot of app developers 'cut their teeth' on iOS aswell. And I know a couple of friends in the app development field who won't consider developing for android, since essentially all android users (me included!) want apps for free, whereas apple users are so used to paying for everything extra (my take on the situation ) that they feel happy to pay for an app. I think a friend quoted that you need to have 10-100k downloads of an app before it even approaches profitability.

Having said that, the examples you cite aren't wanting to make money from selling an app, so the other reasons above are probably just as valid.

tb
trueblu is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 3:24 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 634
Originally Posted by dawk
Variety of Android devices makes especially the test phase quite complicated. To create polished product that will work on any Android handset is not an easy thing.
As an Android developer with a couple of apps in the Android market, I don't really agree with this, at least for the type of apps that travel companies would produce. For simple user interfaces, developing an app using the simulator, then testing on one or two devices, is quite sufficient. It's what I've always done, and have had zero complaints from users on this.

Games are of course different due to their heavy user interface and GPU requirements, and yes the fragmentation of the Android platform may well be a problem for game developers.

Of course, we then need to differentiate between reality and perception among management of those companies commissioning apps. If they've heard that Android is fragmented they may well be less willing to comission an Android app, regardless of what the reality is. Such is business.
acunningham is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 5:11 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: AC*E, Accor Platinum, Hilton Silver
Posts: 184
Originally Posted by acunningham
As an Android developer with a couple of apps in the Android market, I don't really agree with this, at least for the type of apps that travel companies would produce. For simple user interfaces, developing an app using the simulator, then testing on one or two devices, is quite sufficient. It's what I've always done, and have had zero complaints from users on this.
Would you care to share some example apps you've developed? I would really love to see if they are supported by all Android devices that I own...
dawk is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 5:22 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 634
Originally Posted by dawk
Would you care to share some example apps you've developed? I would really love to see if they are supported by all Android devices that I own...
Try "Currency Exchange Rates" or "Enswitch Client" by Integrics. The Enswitch Client is probably not interesting unless you happen to have an account with a suitable telephony provider. I think you'll find they work well on all phones running Android 2.1 or later; I make no promises about tablets.
acunningham is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 5:56 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: AC*E, Accor Platinum, Hilton Silver
Posts: 184
Ok, they work without problems. They offer very basic functionality.

It gets much trickier with more complex applications. Not only with games. But various screen resolution is only one of the problems. Offering a high quality, usable and friendly app is challenging. More for Android then iOS. And this is not so much a weakness of the OS itself, as the number of different versions out there. A lot of folks can not even update beyond 2.1. It will take some time to make use of new features of e.g. 4.0. It is much easier with Apple and iOS with couple devices and clear update process. You can easily QA your app on every Apple devices, it's virtually impossible to do so on Android.

I am sure you will get to realize it, when you obtain higher user base. Which I truly wish you will.
dawk is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 7:08 am
  #9  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Community Builder
Active Streak: 30 Days
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: UA Silver, Bonvoy Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 23,194
A friend runs a company that specializes in creating apps for businesses in Sweden. 95% of the time, these businesses request to only have the app made for iOS.
pseudoswede is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 7:20 am
  #10  
formerly known as 2lovelife
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: ORF : UA_Premier_Gold4Life, Bonvoy_titanium, Accor_Plat
Posts: 6,959
They don't want your (android phone owners) business. It is not a priority to them. I remember this when I spend my money. I love Android and the principles it supports.

The funny thing about this is that often I prefer the webpage of a company's site to the application.
seanthepilot is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 6:46 pm
  #11  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 11,439
Originally Posted by seanthepilot
They don't want your (android phone owners) business. It is not a priority to them. I remember this when I spend my money. I love Android and the principles it supports.

The funny thing about this is that often I prefer the webpage of a company's site to the application.
I think you have this backwards. You don't want to support their business, or you (the collective "you" of Android users) would be willing to pay for it. Apple users are willing to pay for a quality product (as evidenced by their hardware choices) and pay for a quality software product (as evidenced by where the money is in mobile app development). Why would developers want to support your desire for free apps when they can sell apps to a larger, more consistent group, of people using a common platform?
planemechanic is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 6:54 pm
  #12  
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
Posts: 31,801
Iphones come in a standard size, android developers need to plan on all the different screen sizes, processors, etc.

There's like one iphone a year, new android devices come out all the time, that can drive a developer crazy.

Android users have way more free apps to choose from, which makes it harder for them to actually cough up money to buy something.

Pretty much most of the iphone users are on the same OS, android keeps updating, but not all their users update
cordelli is offline  
Old Jun 28, 2012 | 7:36 pm
  #13  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Italian Lakes
Programs: BA, *A, Hertz Goldstar, Mucci wannabee, Waitrose, safari Oleg
Posts: 1,545
Originally Posted by acunningham
- Managers at these companies are more likely to have iOS devices than Android, so think about iOS more.

- Fundamentally, this all boils down to Apple's brand power among non-technical professionals. This is of course a result of Steve Jobs's genius for marketing.
Yup. They all tend to have MACs rather than Windows laptops, too!
h15t0r1an is offline  
Old Jun 29, 2012 | 10:34 am
  #14  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bay Area
Programs: DL SM, UA MP.
Posts: 12,724
Just returned from a trip to Italy. ATAF, the transport agency for Florence, has signs advertising their Android app.

Was surprised to find they didn't have an iPhone version (though their web site lets you calculate routes, as well as view routes).

But I think Android is huge in Italy, because they have a real competitive prepaid market where cheaper unlocked devices are very popular.
wco81 is offline  
Old Jun 29, 2012 | 11:09 am
  #15  
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,034
Starwood makes a blackberry app but not an android app. That says more about SPG than about android.
richarddd is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.