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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by dtsm
Went to app store to check out, and the latest updated version got terrible reviews, problems with crashing, etc. What version do you have?
I have the most recent version of it I think. I have tried it within the last 2 weeks. It didnt compare well at all to Note Taker HD or Notability in my opinion. It looks like the ratings on those two are are also better. It's possible that I missed something about how to use it I suppose but I gave up on it very quickly.

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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
I have the most recent version of it I think. I have tried it within the last 2 weeks. It didnt compare well at all to Note Taker HD or Notability in my opinion. It looks like the ratings on those two are are also better. It's possible that I missed something about how to use it I suppose but I gave up on it very quickly.
I also have the latest version and it works great for me. I haven't looked at reviews as I have been using it a while and find it a joy to use. I have the Note Taker HD, Bamboo Paper, Notability, JotStudio, Pennultimate and PDFPen (for PDF notes) and for whatever reason I find Notes Plus to be the best for how I use it. I'm amazed at how often it converts my crappy handwriting to text correctly and I use that feature the most. The one thing I find to be shaky is the autoshape but I don't use that much. Oh well, perhaps it is a use case based solution and it just fits what I want to do the best.
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Old Mar 11, 2012 | 7:27 pm
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Let's expand this a little bit. I want to convince (or perhaps refute if that turns out to be the case) my boss that tablets are worth investing in as a workplace tool. Outside of email, how are they best used in the workplace? We don't have a sales staff, don't travel, and we are not a creative group, so we don't use a lot of pictures/visuals. We are pretty bog standard in admin tasks. As a manger/director/VP, what extra efficiencies are going to be gained that justify the cost?
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
I have tried using a BT keyboard with my iPad as well. It works fine but I prefer handwriting. Just a personal preference thing but an external keyboard is certainly an option.
I am Secretary of the Board of a non-profit and have taken hand notes for minutes at board meetings for two years. It was a pain to try to decipher my own notes the next day.

I just got an iPad with Bluetooth keyboard and found it much easier, faster and accurate than writing notes. It helps that I learned touch typing.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 4:30 pm
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I love the apps that let you record the meeting and sync your notes. It makes it easier to go back and flush out your notes. Always dump the sound file and covert it to Word. People say too many stupid things that you don't want to memorialize.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Cloudship
Let's expand this a little bit. I want to convince (or perhaps refute if that turns out to be the case) my boss that tablets are worth investing in as a workplace tool. Outside of email, how are they best used in the workplace? We don't have a sales staff, don't travel, and we are not a creative group, so we don't use a lot of pictures/visuals. We are pretty bog standard in admin tasks. As a manger/director/VP, what extra efficiencies are going to be gained that justify the cost?
Without knowing your business I can think of a few general benefits:

(1) Instant access to manuals, databases and other information while away from the desk. Handy for internal meetings where you wouldn't have a computer handy.

(2) Cuts down on the amount that you have to print for internal use. Besides the obvious cost and environmental arguments, this also arguably boosts your information security, since paper is easier to remove from the office without leaving a record (though you would need to take time to secure your devices if leakage is really a concern).

(3) Scheduling. Everyone can refer to their shared work schedule at any time. More efficient than manually syncing one's Outlook calendar to their personal diary.

(4) Makes people feel like they are working in a leading-edge environment.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Bear4Asian
I am Secretary of the Board of a non-profit and have taken hand notes for minutes at board meetings for two years. It was a pain to try to decipher my own notes the next day.

I just got an iPad with Bluetooth keyboard and found it much easier, faster and accurate than writing notes. It helps that I learned touch typing.
Bingo - I'm in the exact same situation. I would forget all my handwritten notes. Now I email the completed minutes to everyone at the end of the meeting
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 2:51 pm
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Ugh! The reality (as I see it) is that the iPad isn't the correct tool for note-taking during a meeting. You can of course try to retrofit it into being the correct tool by purchasing an add-on keyboard. Now of course you're carrying two things into the meeting - iPad and keyboard. And you have to make sure they get and stay connected over Bluetooth, so you've increased the complexity of your note-taking task.

I hate to say it, but a laptop is the right tool for this job, isn't it? Unfortunately it's not the "coolest" tool, but it's the correct tool.

iPads seem to be great for Viewing content, but not so good for Creating content - outside of artistic "drawing" stuff. Would I want to use an iPad to create a Project Gantt chart? Or to create slide decks for a presentation? Or heaven forbid a document?

It's not cool to say so, but sometimes a laptop is the better choice.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 3:36 pm
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I type into Evernote, every day.... The hard thing is to forget about formatting, just jot the notes that come to mind, fix it later, or if ever.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by pittpanther
Ugh! The reality (as I see it) is that the iPad isn't the correct tool for note-taking during a meeting. You can of course try to retrofit it into being the correct tool by purchasing an add-on keyboard. Now of course you're carrying two things into the meeting - iPad and keyboard. And you have to make sure they get and stay connected over Bluetooth, so you've increased the complexity of your note-taking task.

I hate to say it, but a laptop is the right tool for this job, isn't it? Unfortunately it's not the "coolest" tool, but it's the correct tool.

iPads seem to be great for Viewing content, but not so good for Creating content - outside of artistic "drawing" stuff. Would I want to use an iPad to create a Project Gantt chart? Or to create slide decks for a presentation? Or heaven forbid a document?

It's not cool to say so, but sometimes a laptop is the better choice.
Whenever I see that meme I just have to laugh. I see many people in my company who can type quite quickly on a tablet surface, and have no problem keeping up with a meeting to take minutes or notes. Is it the perfect solution? No, but it is a perfectly acceptable one, especially considering the weight and other attributes such as long battery life generally outweigh any possible benefits of carrying a laptop. It is really all about personal preference, not about what is "cool" or not.

Can I ask? Have you ever used a tablet in such a scenario, recently?

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 8:25 pm
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Agree with others on the evernote, and I have it installed everywhere, so the "cloud" has everything.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by pittpanther
Ugh! The reality (as I see it) is that the iPad isn't the correct tool for note-taking during a meeting. You can of course try to retrofit it into being the correct tool by purchasing an add-on keyboard. Now of course you're carrying two things into the meeting - iPad and keyboard. And you have to make sure they get and stay connected over Bluetooth, so you've increased the complexity of your note-taking task.

I hate to say it, but a laptop is the right tool for this job, isn't it? Unfortunately it's not the "coolest" tool, but it's the correct tool.

iPads seem to be great for Viewing content, but not so good for Creating content - outside of artistic "drawing" stuff. Would I want to use an iPad to create a Project Gantt chart? Or to create slide decks for a presentation? Or heaven forbid a document?

It's not cool to say so, but sometimes a laptop is the better choice.
A laptop doesn't work for me. In a company meeting people think you are checking email and only half listening to the meeting, same thing in a client meeting. If I am writing on my iPad everyone just thinks I am intently taking notes, which I am.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by planemechanic
Whenever I see that meme I just have to laugh. I see many people in my company who can type quite quickly on a tablet surface, and have no problem keeping up with a meeting to take minutes or notes. Is it the perfect solution? No, but it is a perfectly acceptable one, especially considering the weight and other attributes such as long battery life generally outweigh any possible benefits of carrying a laptop. It is really all about personal preference, not about what is "cool" or not.
I guess people can get used to anything. I imagine there are people who could take notes on their smartphone keyboard, using just their two thumbs, and could keep up. Does that make it the best choice for the task?

And almost no one on this thread recommended using the tablet virtual keyboard itself - I have heard mostly recommendations for an external keyboard. I believe that is because most people would struggle for a long time with significant typing on the virtual keyboard. I'm sure eventually you would get used to it, but at a significant investment in time and effort.

Originally Posted by planemechanic
Can I ask? Have you ever used a tablet in such a scenario, recently?
No, because it seems to be the incorrect tool for the task. I take notes either with a pen and paper, or a laptop. I don't have to try to take notes using my smartphone, to know it's not the best option.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by MissJoeyDFW
A laptop doesn't work for me. In a company meeting people think you are checking email and only half listening to the meeting, same thing in a client meeting. If I am writing on my iPad everyone just thinks I am intently taking notes, which I am.
That assumption is ridiculous on their part. The people who are not paying attention are the ones on their smart phones, not you using a laptop.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by pittpanther
I guess people can get used to anything. I imagine there are people who could take notes on their smartphone keyboard, using just their two thumbs, and could keep up. Does that make it the best choice for the task?
Why yes, it does mean it is the best choice for the task, for the people who choose to use that device.

Originally Posted by pittpanther
And almost no one on this thread recommended using the tablet virtual keyboard itself - I have heard mostly recommendations for an external keyboard.
I think you are making an assumption there. The first explicit mention of an external keyboard does not happen until post #10, and then again in #12. As the iPad has a keyboard I was reading the first nine posts as referring to that.

Originally Posted by pittpanther
I believe that is because most people would struggle for a long time with significant typing on the virtual keyboard. I'm sure eventually you would get used to it, but at a significant investment in time and effort.
But you said you have never tried using a tablet in this manner, so you are making an even bigger assumption here.

Originally Posted by pittpanther
No, because it seems to be the incorrect tool for the task. I take notes either with a pen and paper, or a laptop. I don't have to try to take notes using my smartphone, to know it's not the best option.
Not the best option, for you. But then you have never given it a try either.
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