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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:06 am
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Liquid cooling system for full tower computer

I wanted to purchase a liquid cooling system because my computer is making my room too hot. Will a liquid cooling system help, or does it expel the same amount of heat? Also, will the liquid cooling system make a lot of noise? I'm not overclocking and my PC has been running fine for 4 years so I'm not worried about heat damage to the CPU, etc...

What do you think about one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Xigmatek-AIO-S...312922&sr=1-15
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Perfor...0312922&sr=1-6

Or, does anyone know of a portable air conditioner that you don't have to "plug in" to a window?
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:34 am
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In any instance, you're still exchanging heat and have to expel it somewhere. If you're not venting it directly out of the room, then you're out of luck.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 1:45 pm
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It won't make your room cooler since, as tkey said, you're still moving the heat from your computer to the room. It may make your computer quieter/more livable though depending on what kind of noise it puts out now. Best Buy has the Corsair H50 for around $45-50 depending on sales. (minus one of their 10-12% coupons of course )
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by jetsfan92588
I wanted to purchase a liquid cooling system because my computer is making my room too hot.

Or, does anyone know of a portable air conditioner that you don't have to "plug in" to a window?
You'll want to Google 'Portable AC'
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Flahusky
You'll want to Google 'Portable AC'
Thanks, all of those (and I guess any cooling device) expel heat outside through a window-or into the room .

I think I'm going to move the computer to the hallway and get a liquid cooling system to make it quiet. Now I just need to figure out a way to run the cords out to the hallway.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by jetsfan92588
I'm not overclocking and my PC has been running fine for 4 years so I'm not worried about heat damage to the CPU, etc...
You could probably get a new computer that's as fast as your four-year-old one that makes less heat for the cost of a watercooling setup (that won't actually reduce heat output, just noise).
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Originally Posted by jetsfan92588
Thanks, all of those (and I guess any cooling device) expel heat outside through a window-or into the room .

I think I'm going to move the computer to the hallway and get a liquid cooling system to make it quiet. Now I just need to figure out a way to run the cords out to the hallway.
Wireless mouse/keyboard and/or USB HUB to USB extension to PC
Up to a 50' VGA cable
Extension cord
Done :P

Other questions:
1. What type of monitor do you have:
2. How small is this room?
3. Does the room have a ceiling fan or something to move air to help cool things?
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 9:55 pm
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FWIW, you're probably better off looking at new low-power hardware than liquid cooling, both in terms of price and ease. People usually turn to liquid cooling for maximum performance reasons. There are much cheaper, easier and safer ways to make your computer quiet.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 6:06 am
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If you plan to reduce heat through hardware upgrades, consider moving to an AMD APU.

With an AMD APU, you eliminate both your current CPU and GPU and replace them with the APU. The APU will draw much less power than the current CPU+GPU combination, which means it will also throw off much less heat.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by Flahusky
Wireless mouse/keyboard and/or USB HUB to USB extension to PC
Up to a 50' VGA cable
Extension cord
Done :P

Other questions:
1. What type of monitor do you have:
2. How small is this room?
3. Does the room have a ceiling fan or something to move air to help cool things?
Thanks. I have two 24" monitors connecting to my computer using DVI cables. I do have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The room is about 15' x 15'. It does have windows, but we turn our alarm system on every night and my dad doesn't want to have to bypass the window every time he turns the alarm system on. That's why I can't use a portable AC. We do have central AC but my room gets much hotter than any other room in the house so it's kind of wasting money to cool the whole house just because my room is hot. I did just purchase an ultra-darkening "drapery" to cover the west-facing window so hopefully that helps a little.

Originally Posted by Wilbur
If you plan to reduce heat through hardware upgrades, consider moving to an AMD APU.

With an AMD APU, you eliminate both your current CPU and GPU and replace them with the APU. The APU will draw much less power than the current CPU+GPU combination, which means it will also throw off much less heat.
I'm not skilled enough to replace the motherboard which I think would be necessary to change the chipset. I'll definitely look into that though.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 12:22 pm
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Liquid cooling keeps the CPU (and any other liquid-cooled components) cooler, it doesn't change the amount of heat thrown off at all.

As for room ACs--they have to get rid of the heat to the outside somehow. Note that there are units which do not stick out of the window at all--there's one of them behind me as I write this. The unit sits in the room, two hoses run from it to a plate that's inserted in the track of the window. While the plate could be seen (after all, it's white, not glass) from the outside nothing sticks out and since there's a solar screen over the window it's effectively invisible.

Obviously you need an openable window to do this, though.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilbur
If you plan to reduce heat through hardware upgrades, consider moving to an AMD APU.

With an AMD APU, you eliminate both your current CPU and GPU and replace them with the APU. The APU will draw much less power than the current CPU+GPU combination, which means it will also throw off much less heat.
I don't know much about heat specific tests, but heat is directly proportional to power consumption in processors. AMD systems don't appear to be on the cutting edge of power efficiency, and theoretically should generate more heat.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...nm,2831-7.html

I'm not saying I'm in any way an expert here, but I'd like to know more. I'd love to see any info if you happen to have any.

Edited to add: As for the comments here about portable AC's, make absolutely sure if you get one that you get the "two hose" style, where the intake and the exhaust both go to the window. At one time I had one of the cheaper / older units. It did pump out cool air, but it also sucked air in from your room to cool the condenser and then vented it out the window. To replace the air exhausted out the window, hot air gets sucked in to your room from gaps along windows and around doors, decreasing the net effect of the cool air produced. With the two hose systems this isn't a problem since the air used to cool the condenser is sucked through the second hose.

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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by jetsfan92588
We do have central AC but my room gets much hotter than any other room in the house so it's kind of wasting money to cool the whole house just because my room is hot.
You might want to forget the rest of this stuff and just purchase one of these:

http://www.smarthome.com/3017W/Flush...HC500-W/p.aspx

I'm pretty sure there are ceiling duct models available, too.
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 5:55 pm
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Maybe just open the door to your room and use a room fan to circulate the air. @:-)
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 6:06 pm
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Take a look at some of the new systems with the Intel Sandy bridge chip. They are very powerful and more efficient than older systems. Read up on some forums where they compare performance, power usage and heat production from these CPUs to the older PC CPUs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115070
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072
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