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Visconti Apr 23, 2023 6:56 am


Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ (Post 35193701)
Just be careful though as while they might not be able to see what you're transmitting, they can certainly identify you connecting to an unregistered VPN provider. You're likely not to get into a lot of trouble (at least used in the shortterm), but thing could change.

This is helpful.

For my purposes, not sure it's worth the risk of handing them an easy lay-up to use the "color of law" against me for whatever reason. Never know, could always say or utter something something that sticks in the craw of some CCP bureaucrat triggering a process crime charge.

StuckInYYZ Apr 23, 2023 7:38 am


Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 35194605)
This is helpful.

For my purposes, not sure it's worth the risk of handing them an easy lay-up to use the "color of law" against me for whatever reason. Never know, could always say or utter something something that sticks in the craw of some CCP bureaucrat triggering a process crime charge.

Depending on what you do with the connection, I suspect the results will vary. If they decide to seize your laptop and search, I think they're more concerned about information that they would rather not get into China than if you're watching the american edition of Netflix. Anything they perceive as subversive. But anything for a bargaining chip these days.

Boraxo Apr 24, 2023 1:02 am

After quite a bit of research and reviews I selected NordVPN. So far so good and wish I had done this a while ago as I've had info swiped on hotel connections. That said I've had a occasions where website don't correctly until I disconnect from VPN. Is this common?

StuckInYYZ Apr 24, 2023 1:30 am


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 35196735)
That said I've had a occasions where website don't correctly until I disconnect from VPN. Is this common?

That's normal. Mostly with sites that deal with copyright issues (most commonly streaming websites). VPNs allow for people to use things they might not be able to normally (for example, me, in Canada, streaming Netflix US.... I don't but useful as an example). There's also geoblocking that can be bypassed (eg, Mainland chinese watching Youtube).

Some sites are just inexplicable (eg, VPNs and FlyerTalk) but it's up to them to decide and explain (or not).

Visconti Apr 24, 2023 9:17 am


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 35196735)
After quite a bit of research and reviews I selected NordVPN. So far so good and wish I had done this a while ago as I've had info swiped on hotel connections. That said I've had a occasions where website don't correctly until I disconnect from VPN. Is this common?

Have been using NordVPN for the past 5 or 6 years? Had used ExpressVPN prior to them, but found the NVPN deals too good to pass up. In the end, price is always a main consideration for me. But, yeah, having to disconnect and reconnect is pretty normal and I've gotten used to it when using it when traveling.

PS - May have asked this before, but is there any purpose on using a VPN when on one's phones LTE?

gfunkdave Apr 24, 2023 10:44 am

The only purpose of a VPN is to

1. obscure your location so you seem to be somewhere you're not
2. hide some/all of the information on which websites or other services you are visiting
3. as a corollary to #2, to enable you to access resources that are blocked on your local network
4. if you are connecting to your own VPN server at home/work, to access local network resources on your home/business network

That's really about it. VPNs are not some magic Super Private Browsing hack. You are just trusting the VPN provider with the same info that your local network provider would ordinarily get.

StuckInYYZ Apr 24, 2023 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 35197637)
PS - May have asked this before, but is there any purpose on using a VPN when on one's phones LTE?

Depends on what you're doing. Just make sure you're actually connected to your phone (if using as a wireless hotspot) and you don't really care if your cell provider sees what you're doing (this could be a touchy point). Not sure what will happen if you try to "double-VPN" something (set up a VPN on your phone on top of your laptop requiring a VPN) but you will take a performance hit if you do something like that.

TGarza Apr 24, 2023 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 35197637)
PS - May have asked this before, but is there any purpose on using a VPN when on one's phones LTE?


My work phone is partitioned into personal and work with the work side requiring a VPN to access network data as if I were using my laptop.

For my personal phone, I use a VPN when accessing public WiFi access such as hotels and short term rentals.

Boraxo Apr 25, 2023 1:57 pm

Interesting piece in BusinessWeek/Bloomberg this week focusing on VPNs and Specifically NordVPN. I will update with a link.

zdt_ft Apr 28, 2023 10:00 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 34665071)
For example, I run WireGuard on several Ubiquiti EdgeRouters. It will also work on Mikrotik, Tomato, DD-WRT, and many others.

Similar setup - if you have a Raspberry Pi, Zimaboard, or some other SBC or old computer, you can setup Tail Scale which is an open source mesh VPN network, and set up the machine at your home to serve as an exit note, which will all you to route your laptop or mobile traffic through it while traveling. This also provides the added benefit of being able to access machines/files on your home network while away. This is way more functional and cost-effective (in the long-term) than paying for a VPN-as-a-service.

kennycrudup Apr 28, 2023 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 35193310)
A few years ago, TorGuard stopped working with Swedish TV providers. We switched to NordVPN. There are occasions when content is geoblocked when on VPN, but it seems to clear up within a few days.

I have friends from Scandinavia who use their friends/parents' (superior) Internet connection to host little VPN boxes (routers or RPis). By your handle I assume you're "from" there, so maybe you could get a friend or family member there to host an OpenVPN/Wireguard server router for you? That way there's no blocking (as it looks just like a residential SE/... internet connection).

lsquare Apr 28, 2023 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 35197637)
Have been using NordVPN for the past 5 or 6 years? Had used ExpressVPN prior to them, but found the NVPN deals too good to pass up. In the end, price is always a main consideration for me. But, yeah, having to disconnect and reconnect is pretty normal and I've gotten used to it when using it when traveling.

PS - May have asked this before, but is there any purpose on using a VPN when on one's phones LTE?


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 35197925)
The only purpose of a VPN is to

1. obscure your location so you seem to be somewhere you're not
2. hide some/all of the information on which websites or other services you are visiting
3. as a corollary to #2, to enable you to access resources that are blocked on your local network
4. if you are connecting to your own VPN server at home/work, to access local network resources on your home/business network

That's really about it. VPNs are not some magic Super Private Browsing hack. You are just trusting the VPN provider with the same info that your local network provider would ordinarily get.

Nord always seems to have deals, but I have never used them. I've been using Exp for years. I wish there was a way to see which VPN is more secure. Security and lack of logging are very important to me.

bocastephen Apr 28, 2023 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by kennycrudup (Post 35209866)
I have friends from Scandinavia who use their friends/parents' (superior) Internet connection to host little VPN boxes (routers or RPis). By your handle I assume you're "from" there, so maybe you could get a friend or family member there to host an OpenVPN/Wireguard server router for you? That way there's no blocking (as it looks just like a residential SE/... internet connection).

This is what we ended up doing to bypass the content restrictions for tv in Canada. Put a tiny OpenVPN box on our ATT modem in California and the box on mom’s Rogers modem in Canada and her Roku stick connects to that box.

Wireguard performance was terrible but when we switched to Open VPN it worked perfectly including HD content

StuckInYYZ Apr 28, 2023 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 35209921)
Nord always seems to have deals, but I have never used them. I've been using Exp for years. I wish there was a way to see which VPN is more secure. Security and lack of logging are very important to me.

Ask and you shall receive. :)

https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

NOTE: This is what their stated policies are, not what they actually do. That said, Torrentfreak occasionally posts related stories of interest (I think recently, only PIA was tested). there are other sites that claim to do these VPN reviews, but I find they're nothing other than affiliate clickbait. TF doesn't say which one is best, but it posts responses to its questions and lets you decide.

lsquare Apr 28, 2023 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ (Post 35210127)
Ask and you shall receive. :)

https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

NOTE: This is what their stated policies are, not what they actually do. That said, Torrentfreak occasionally posts related stories of interest (I think recently, only PIA was tested). there are other sites that claim to do these VPN reviews, but I find they're nothing other than affiliate clickbait. TF doesn't say which one is best, but it posts responses to its questions and lets you decide.

Is TF a reliable news source?


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