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pittpanther Feb 25, 2010 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 13465222)
They jailbreak them so they can run applications other then the official apple approved ones.

You can add stuff that developers have come up with but don't meet Apple's standards and Apple won't let them sell on the App Store or don't want to abide by apple's pricing scheme.

Which pretty much means porn, doesn't it?

pdxer Feb 25, 2010 9:24 pm


They jailbreak them so they can run applications other then the official apple approved ones

Originally Posted by pittpanther (Post 13467460)
Which pretty much means porn, doesn't it?

jailbreak apps include custom themes, putting apps into folders (known as categories), adding bluetooth profiles, modifying or accessing parts of the system that are officially off limits, video before the 3gs came out, google voice and also tethering, since at&t refuses to support it despite saying they would.

cordelli Feb 25, 2010 9:34 pm

Actually my understanding is it's far and away games that people jailbreak their phones and touches for.

Getting into the apple app store is not easy, and you pretty much give up way more then you would through other channels.

pdxer Feb 25, 2010 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 13467556)
Getting into the apple app store is not easy, and you pretty much give up way more then you would through other channels.

it's very easy, too easy. that's why there's so much crap.

jackal Feb 25, 2010 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 13467565)
it's very easy, too easy. that's why there's so much crap.

And then you have Apple denying (er, sorry, permanently "reviewing") USEFUL apps like Google Voice or products by the great software firm Rogue Amoeba. :rolleyes:

BenjaminNicholas Feb 25, 2010 11:28 pm

Let me get this straight...

Apple purposefully makes their little iPod and decides to not include features out of the gate that many other, totally obsolete smart phones already have been including for years. They then get their panties in a wad when folks who outright BUY their product want to jailbreak and get the most out of their already overpriced, somewhat behind-the-times device...

W T F is the problem with that? What, we all must wait for Apple to release yet another overinflated software update to add simple functionality we should have demanded from the get-go? That's not being a smart consumer. That's drinking the Kool Aid and asking for refills.

*insert sheep bleating here*

Apple can suck it for responding this way to a customer of theirs. If the story is true, I hope they take a beating on this. It's inexcusable.




BN

LIH Prem Feb 26, 2010 12:17 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 13463852)
....this could happen to you....

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9i6ot

I love how you edited that and stopped your quote. Here's the rest of the story ...


.Instead of the MALL POLICE..and actual Police Officer came....They spoke to the manager..then came to me.....I told them I am breaking no laws and there is no way in hell anybody is taking my itouch unless the COURTS order me to turn it over...I said..here is my info...take me to court.....Otherwise, get off my friggin back or I will sue apple and file complaints against you as just because you have a badge does NOT give you the right to detain me or ask me to give you my personal possessions unless you can tell me WHAT LAW I AM BREAKING.....They walked away.....talked to the manager...came back and said "sorry for the inconvenience. You have a pleasant day"......and I left.......

DBCme Feb 26, 2010 12:33 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 13463852)
....this could happen to you....

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9i6ot

I admit to having only read what you posted and not the whole article. But technically, having jailbreak on the phone isn't illegal right? It's having downloaded applications via jailbreak that's illegal, right?

Also, why would a police officer even be involved in this type of issue? Sounds like a civil case.

Story is fishy anyway.

nerd Feb 26, 2010 1:26 am


Originally Posted by mikensf74 (Post 13468231)
But technically, having jailbreak on the phone isn't illegal right? It's having downloaded applications via jailbreak that's illegal, right?

Why would the latter be illegal?

Tummy Feb 26, 2010 6:20 am

The post looks interesting...but there are too many ELLIPSES...no paragraph breaks...and TOO MANY CAPS...!!!

goaliemn Feb 26, 2010 7:32 am

If anything, Apple may be able to say you violated the license agreement on the phone/device which may have something about modifying the OS on the device.

As others have pointed out, Apple may try to say its a violation of the DMCA since the copy protection on the device was broken, so it could be interesting. If I had an iphone, I wouldn't go near an apple store with it, unless it was back in its non jailbroken state. Its not worth having someone get too upset.

bdjohns1 Feb 26, 2010 8:44 am


Originally Posted by pittpanther (Post 13467460)
Which pretty much means porn, doesn't it?

Or, maybe it just uses APIs that Apple doesn't let AppStore developers use or methods they don't approve of.

Here's what I use the jailbreak to install on my phone:

1) Notification icons in the top bar, so I can see if I have voicemail, texts, or e-mails without even unlocking the phone.
2) Local temperature in the top bar, so I don't need to fire up Weather.
3) A toggle app (SBSettings) that lets me turn on/off airplane, bluetooth, wifi, etc with one swipe on any screen.
4) Google Voice - one of the apps that used to be sold on the App Store that got "unapproved". Still uses my cellphone minutes, just lets me originate calls from my GV number, and access GV call history, voicemail, etc.
5) 3G Unrestrictor - I've been able to use Skype on 3G for as long as there's been a Skype app. Plus, download >10MB from AppStore and iTunes.
6) Alternate fonts.

Apple can go pound sand on the jailbreak thing - if one of their folks tried that on me, I'd threaten to put their head through a Cinema Display. :)

bocastephen Feb 26, 2010 8:53 am


Originally Posted by goaliemn (Post 13469404)
If anything, Apple may be able to say you violated the license agreement on the phone/device which may have something about modifying the OS on the device.

As others have pointed out, Apple may try to say its a violation of the DMCA since the copy protection on the device was broken, so it could be interesting. If I had an iphone, I wouldn't go near an apple store with it, unless it was back in its non jailbroken state. Its not worth having someone get too upset.

Actually, baiting the too-gung-ho Apple store folks with it would be part of the fun.

I don't recall signing or accepting an EULA when I bought my iPhone - what is Apple going to do? Go after all the jailbreakers in court the same way the RIAA went after file sharers? That would get interesting.

pdxer Feb 26, 2010 9:18 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 13468017)
And then you have Apple denying (er, sorry, permanently "reviewing") USEFUL apps like Google Voice or products by the great software firm Rogue Amoeba. :rolleyes:

they reject relatively few apps. about 98% are approved as submitted, and of the ones that are initially rejected, most are due to bugs and later approved when the bugs are fixed.

on occasion, an app will get rejected when it shouldn't have been (e.g., google voice) and on occasion an app will get approved when it shouldn't have been (e.g., baby shaker).

it's not perfect, but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

Mul Feb 27, 2010 10:17 am


Originally Posted by goaliemn (Post 13469404)
If anything, Apple may be able to say you violated the license agreement on the phone/device which may have something about modifying the OS on the device.

As others have pointed out, Apple may try to say its a violation of the DMCA since the copy protection on the device was broken, so it could be interesting. If I had an iphone, I wouldn't go near an apple store with it, unless it was back in its non jailbroken state. Its not worth having someone get too upset.

It's interesting that Apple cares about it's own copy protections but also promotes DRM-free music download.


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