Giving up car insurance for a year.
#16
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Okay. Here is the solution
Firstly, note my insurer is State Farm so its a reputable company with agents.
1. You suspend your car insurance and take up comprehensive insurance. This protects you against said joy riding teens and its cheaper.
2. When you come back to the US you can temporarily reinstate your policy for a week (you have to pay of course) and then suspend it again when you leave.
1. You suspend your car insurance and take up comprehensive insurance. This protects you against said joy riding teens and its cheaper.
2. When you come back to the US you can temporarily reinstate your policy for a week (you have to pay of course) and then suspend it again when you leave.
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Firstly, note my insurer is State Farm so its a reputable company with agents.
1. You suspend your car insurance and take up comprehensive insurance. This protects you against said joy riding teens and its cheaper.
2. When you come back to the US you can temporarily reinstate your policy for a week (you have to pay of course) and then suspend it again when you leave.
1. You suspend your car insurance and take up comprehensive insurance. This protects you against said joy riding teens and its cheaper.
2. When you come back to the US you can temporarily reinstate your policy for a week (you have to pay of course) and then suspend it again when you leave.
#18
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OP - Before listening to broad-based statements about defined terms, read your policies carefully. "Permanent Residence" may well be defined and your home here may or may not qualify you.
Same thing with overseas rentals. The possibility of damages to a third party individual is not simply their medicals, but might include lost earnings (which might be substantial for a wealthy person who can't work again).
State Farm ought to be able to advise you in this regard. Even though you won't be able to purchase through State Farm, your situation is very common and what you need overseas is a country-by-country analysis and is also dependent on your personal risk tolerance and profile.
Lastly, be careful about cancelling your domestic auto policy if you have an umbrella. Many expressly require auto with specific minimum levels well above what individual state laws require. You definitely don't want to lose your umbrella.
Same thing with overseas rentals. The possibility of damages to a third party individual is not simply their medicals, but might include lost earnings (which might be substantial for a wealthy person who can't work again).
State Farm ought to be able to advise you in this regard. Even though you won't be able to purchase through State Farm, your situation is very common and what you need overseas is a country-by-country analysis and is also dependent on your personal risk tolerance and profile.
Lastly, be careful about cancelling your domestic auto policy if you have an umbrella. Many expressly require auto with specific minimum levels well above what individual state laws require. You definitely don't want to lose your umbrella.
#19
Join Date: Sep 2015
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So I'm going to live overseas in a city where I will not have a car so no insurance.
But of course I intend to rent a car occasionally.
My Visa will cover damage to my car and my health insurance damage to me!
But what insurance can I buy to cover me against damage to other cars and injury to other drivers.
I will return to US occasionally.
But of course I intend to rent a car occasionally.
My Visa will cover damage to my car and my health insurance damage to me!
But what insurance can I buy to cover me against damage to other cars and injury to other drivers.
I will return to US occasionally.
#20
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Insurance agents are very good at telling you after the fact that "you should have bought non-owned-auto insurance" but I was never even aware it was an option and was never offered it.
#21
Join Date: Dec 2001
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So I'm going to live overseas in a city where I will not have a car so no insurance.
But of course I intend to rent a car occasionally.
My Visa will cover damage to my car and my health insurance damage to me!
But what insurance can I buy to cover me against damage to other cars and injury to other drivers.
I will return to US occasionally.
But of course I intend to rent a car occasionally.
My Visa will cover damage to my car and my health insurance damage to me!
But what insurance can I buy to cover me against damage to other cars and injury to other drivers.
I will return to US occasionally.
I use https://www.icarhireinsurance.com/. Fortunately, I have not needed their reimbursement yet but the offer and reviews are positive.
#22
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When I lived in London, I had a US Touring Auto Policy from USAA. If I recall, it is very inexpensive (<$50 per year). If you rent a car when you are back in the US, you get basic liability coverage of ~$100k. However, its most important function is allowing you to maintain continuous coverage and not have an insurance gap. If you return to the US in a few years, your driving record will look great (assuming no incidents) and you will be eligible for lower rates.
#23
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USAA has tried to sell me this policy as well (claiming my rates would go up since I wouldn't have continuous coverage). I never took it. Over the years I've had auto, not had auto, and then had auto again. My rates never went up. Unless you need the coverage they sell - don't listen to their "pitch" that your rates may go up.
#24
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USAA has tried to sell me this policy as well (claiming my rates would go up since I wouldn't have continuous coverage). I never took it. Over the years I've had auto, not had auto, and then had auto again. My rates never went up. Unless you need the coverage they sell - don't listen to their "pitch" that your rates may go up.
That is unfortunately not the case in most of the US, though the amount of difference in the premium varies widely by company--and I suspect also varies widely depending on the applicant's credit score where it's legal to use as a rating factor. Ironically, USAA has never cared whether I had prior insurance when I've signed up for new auto insurance with them (whether I was switching carriers or hadn't had a car for a while), even when I didn't live in California.
#25
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Your sidebar info says you live in Los Angeles... changing auto insurance rates based on whether or not someone had prior coverage is illegal in California and has been for quite some time.
That is unfortunately not the case in most of the US, though the amount of difference in the premium varies widely by company--and I suspect also varies widely depending on the applicant's credit score where it's legal to use as a rating factor. Ironically, USAA has never cared whether I had prior insurance when I've signed up for new auto insurance with them (whether I was switching carriers or hadn't had a car for a while), even when I didn't live in California.
That is unfortunately not the case in most of the US, though the amount of difference in the premium varies widely by company--and I suspect also varies widely depending on the applicant's credit score where it's legal to use as a rating factor. Ironically, USAA has never cared whether I had prior insurance when I've signed up for new auto insurance with them (whether I was switching carriers or hadn't had a car for a while), even when I didn't live in California.
#26
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(and, obviously, you need it if you need insurance coverage... the US non-owner policy with USAA is only $24 if you don't live in the US, which is worth it to me since rental cars don't always include liability insurance in the US and when they do it's often only the ridiculously low state minimum)
..but I suspect the USAA rep who helped you cancel was just reading a script.
Last edited by der_saeufer; Aug 11, 2017 at 2:05 pm