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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 1:06 pm
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USA Today: Carmakers widen seats for wider ...

As Americans grow heftier, automakers are making seats wider, adding more space to interiors and ...

Doubt airlines will do the same.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...ats-usat_x.htm

Not certain if this belongs here; it's sort of travel related.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 6:22 pm
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if you have ever sat in an American car built in the 50s or 60s the seats were much larger than those in today's cars.

If airline seats could be as large as a cheap office chair there would be no complaints.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by timrick
As Americans grow heftier, automakers are making seats wider, adding more space to interiors and ...

Doubt airlines will do the same.
From where do you suggest they get the extra space?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 8:51 pm
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From where do you suggest they get the extra space?
Get rid of the aisle of course. Have the middle most seats fold down so you actually use them as a gangway for boarding/disembarking, then have the middle sesat crowd board last from rear to front, shut the door and send the thing on it's way. Airlines would save on drinks services and there would be no arguments over trying to use restrooms in the other cabin!
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And in case of an emergency .. these center people would all have to stand up, flip their seats to the upright position before running to the exits???

I think there may be an FAA requirement on the width of the aisles .. or the fact that the aisle width impacts the evacuation time for the plane. If they cannot evacuate certain numbers of people in certain time limits .. the plane does not get certified.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 9:18 pm
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Geez. If the ASPCA says a 25 pound dog must have a certain amount of room, why can't people have tha same amount of space? Wht can't the ASPCA represent us instead of Congress?
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:33 am
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They can go a route similar to the UA Economy+ and make $$$ out of it.

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Originally Posted by timrick
As Americans grow heftier, automakers are making seats wider, adding more space to interiors and ...

Doubt airlines will do the same.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...ats-usat_x.htm

Not certain if this belongs here; it's sort of travel related.
What the article is talking about can be called "size creap" .... where a manufacturer comes out with a new car and then gives it the same name as an earlier model that was somewhat smaller.

In recent years average interior volume of cars has actually stayed about the same.

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by timrick
They can go a route similar to the UA Economy+ and make $$$ out of it.
If they could make more money by removing a seat from each row don't you think somebody would have done so already?

Oh, wait... They have. Midwest Airlines have been flying DC9s/MD80s/B717s for a couple of decades in a 2x2 configuration. The world hasn't exactly beat a path to their door.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 1:00 pm
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I take your points.

Airlines cannot help themsleves. Perhaps, Boeing / Airbus will, isn't 787 going to have wider seats and aisles?
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Originally Posted by timrick
Airlines cannot help themsleves. Perhaps, Boeing / Airbus will, isn't 787 going to have wider seats and aisles?
Boeing's mock-ups and brochures show 19" wide seats in Economy in a 2+4+2 config. However, 17-18" seats in a 3+3+3 is more likely.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 11:39 am
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As flights get longer and longer, I'm sure some kind of enhancements will come out, but it'll take time.

Another point worth making is economics. As fuel becomes more expensive, doesn't it make more sense to take a few seats out, and use the weight for cargo, which I bet they can charge more for?
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