The case for arming crew and even passengers
Sep 17, 2001, 6:42 am
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The case for arming crew and even passengers
a very provocative article (and IMO makes more sense than this no plastic knife nonsense):
Making the Air Safe for Terror
NEW YORK — We’ve turned our airplanes into safe zones for hijackers.
By Dave Kopel & Captain David Petteys.
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel091401.shtml
Making the Air Safe for Terror
NEW YORK — We’ve turned our airplanes into safe zones for hijackers.
By Dave Kopel & Captain David Petteys.
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel091401.shtml
Sep 17, 2001, 9:31 am
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great article. there is the opinion of some people that the only to stop some atacker who is going to commit suicide is to kill him or her. i agree & think that we should be allowed to have a means to do it.
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Sep 17, 2001, 12:21 pm
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It was a good article, however I think having guns aboard defeats all of the purpose of screening at the airport. To give an example, a few bus drivers in Dallas had a gun under their seats of which the criminals once used to rob them and the passengers. Would you like to put a gun on a plane that a terrorist could access? Two pilots on board and say about 5 terrorists who are suicidal. You do the math. Plus AFAIK, I don't think we should put pressure on pilots to "shoot to kill". They have enough worries flying planes and the safety of passengers.
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Sep 17, 2001, 1:50 pm
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FREE Firearm Training for is available for pilots!!!
http://www.frontsight.com/gun_school_for_pilots.htm
I think this link will get you there - otherwise just type in www.frontsight.com in your browser and you will see the offer on their page.
http://www.frontsight.com/gun_school_for_pilots.htm
I think this link will get you there - otherwise just type in www.frontsight.com in your browser and you will see the offer on their page.
Sep 17, 2001, 5:05 pm
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1. Fortify the door leading to the flight deck.
2. Keep a loaded firearm (or two) in a locked box in the flight deck.
3. Allow all passengers and crew to carry stun guns or pepper spray, but carry stiff penalties for misuse (no different than allowing cell phones on board but prohibit their use).
If a majority of passengers have weapons that incapacitate, not kill, and the flight deck is inaccessible without explosives, passengers and crew are enpowered to stop anyone from rogue activities including hijacking and air rage. Since more than 1 person has that power, no one person have complete control, majority rule.
2. Keep a loaded firearm (or two) in a locked box in the flight deck.
3. Allow all passengers and crew to carry stun guns or pepper spray, but carry stiff penalties for misuse (no different than allowing cell phones on board but prohibit their use).
If a majority of passengers have weapons that incapacitate, not kill, and the flight deck is inaccessible without explosives, passengers and crew are enpowered to stop anyone from rogue activities including hijacking and air rage. Since more than 1 person has that power, no one person have complete control, majority rule.