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NY Times: Airbus Pulls Further Ahead of Boeing in Global Plane Rivalry

NY Times: Airbus Pulls Further Ahead of Boeing in Global Plane Rivalry

Old Feb 16, 2024, 8:36 pm
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NY Times: Airbus Pulls Further Ahead of Boeing in Global Plane Rivalry

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/b...-earnings.html

The European aerospace giant said it would deliver 800 planes this year, including its A320neo, which competes with Boeing’s troubled 737 Max. Airbus also announced progress on a new, more fuel-efficient aircraft.
​​​​​​​Is this the beginning of the end for Boeing? Airbus will have a next-generation single-aisle body by the 2030s. Will Boeing have the resources to compete?
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Old Feb 17, 2024, 7:41 pm
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Is this the beginning of the end for Boeing? Airbus will have a next-generation single-aisle body by the 2030s. Will Boeing have the resources to compete?
Boeing gets huge contracts from assorted governments for military aircraft, so no, not the beginning of the end, but if they keep trying to squeeze an old platform like they've done to the 737 vs a new frame, maybe not.

Killing the 757 left a big gap in their lineup and handed that segment to Airbus. The -10MAX doesn't seem to be any closer to service than it was five years ago. Airbus has a wildly-successful single-aisle product that does not carry the -MAX taint and has better pax-ex than any 737.

Maybe Boeing is secretly working on a clean-slate 737 replacement. Maybe not: "The all-new 737-MAXXXVI"...
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Boeing gets huge contracts from assorted governments for military aircraft, so no, not the beginning of the end, but if they keep trying to squeeze an old platform like they've done to the 737 vs a new frame, maybe not.

Killing the 757 left a big gap in their lineup and handed that segment to Airbus. The -10MAX doesn't seem to be any closer to service than it was five years ago. Airbus has a wildly-successful single-aisle product that does not carry the -MAX taint and has better pax-ex than any 737.

Maybe Boeing is secretly working on a clean-slate 737 replacement. Maybe not: "The all-new 737-MAXXXVI"...
I always felt that not replacing the 757 was a big issue. But at that time Airbus was looking at the wide bodied and the 380 but the 757 was such a good aircraft for its time. Had the range too over the 737 and 320. Boeing had to compete with the 350 and they came up with the 787 which had a lot of initial issues and of course the Neo and the well known and still ongoing issues with the Max.
I also felt that they missed in marketing too. Airbus was always going around the world it trying to sell their Neo even to small airlines and arranging finance etc while Boeing was not interested in doing so.
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