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Opabinia Aug 21, 2006 8:08 am

Changing diapers
 
I will soon be travelling alone with my two daughters (2.5 years old and 6 months old) from Sao Paulo-LHR/ LHR-Edinburgh with British Airways. Would it be inappropriate if I change their non-poopy diapers over a changing pad on my seat (I assume we will get bulkhead seats since the baby will have a skycot)? I am not sure if I could manage both of them in the plane's bathroom without help.

WhoME Aug 21, 2006 8:52 am

Welcome to Flyertalk, and boy have you chosen a loaded question for your first post! Have a look at this (long) thread where the subject is extensively discussed (disgust?).

Michael

p.s. (to everyone else) Please please let's not start this one again! Pointers to the myriad other threads discussing diaper changes would provide much more light and less heat.

whlinder Aug 21, 2006 8:56 am

I was about to go find the link to that thread too.

I would personally ask a Flight Attendant on board and not go by what we think on here.

Nachtswerg Aug 21, 2006 10:12 am

I agree with asking the FA. I think in most cases, the FA would gladly watch/distract the 2.5 y/o, while you take the 6 m/o to the lavatory.

Opabinia Aug 21, 2006 12:57 pm

Thanks for being gentle with a newbie. I will surely talk to the FA. I have read (was it here?!) that BA is very child friendly. :)

That thread looks interesting.

drbond Aug 21, 2006 1:18 pm

Thank you for being considerate enough to ask.
 
I applaud your effort to be reasonable. To answer your question, it is very inappropriate! Now if I were on the plane near you, I would be happy to entertain your other child for a few moments to help you out. I am sure others would as well. However, not knowing them, it would be best to ask the FA to entertain the other child for a brief period.

lg10 Aug 21, 2006 3:08 pm

(it depends...)
 
Hi, while I'm not that much of an old-hand on FT, I've been travelling with
little kids for a long time.

It is my strong opinion that if you have a toddler and an infant, it is in
everyone's best interest to change your baby on your lap on a mat. There
won't be any unsanitary effects (there's a pad plus you, for goodness' sake);
your toddler will not be alone with a stranger (!) which I think is the worst
solution; you won't have to drag two little kids to a tiny bathroom stall.

I think it is probably also ok to lay out a mat (probably double-mat, to
protect your mat from the yucky floor) on the floor in the bulkhead.

Best option - change the baby in the "bassinette" if there is such a thing
on your flight.

I have never understood people's objections, considering that adult leakage
or incontinence or lack of hygiene is much yuckier IME than anything a
baby can produce. However, it is probably best if you have a seat-section
to your family's own, so no one else will notice or be bothered.

I don't want anyone to flame you (or me), but that is my opinion.

--LG

drbond Aug 22, 2006 2:14 pm

There are NUMEROUS threads that will tell you POINT BLANK that the poster above is NOT the accepted norm. Do a search for diaper changes and you will see.
:td: Please do NOT change diapers in the cabin under any circumstances. :td:

drbond Aug 22, 2006 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by lg10
There won't be any unsanitary effects ... I have never understood people's objections, considering that adult leakage
or incontinence or lack of hygiene is much yuckier IME than anything a
baby can produce.

:td: There is also a thread on the know BIOHAZARDS of this practice! :td:
Please don't make statements of what is yuckier. Neither are positive experiences. And neither are acceptable. :o

azn75 Aug 22, 2006 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by lg10
Hi, while I'm not that much of an old-hand on FT, I've been travelling with
little kids for a long time.

It is my strong opinion that if you have a toddler and an infant, it is in
everyone's best interest to change your baby on your lap on a mat. There
won't be any unsanitary effects (there's a pad plus you, for goodness' sake);
your toddler will not be alone with a stranger (!) which I think is the worst
solution; you won't have to drag two little kids to a tiny bathroom stall.

I think it is probably also ok to lay out a mat (probably double-mat, to
protect your mat from the yucky floor) on the floor in the bulkhead.

Best option - change the baby in the "bassinette" if there is such a thing
on your flight.

I have never understood people's objections, considering that adult leakage
or incontinence or lack of hygiene is much yuckier IME than anything a
baby can produce. However, it is probably best if you have a seat-section
to your family's own, so no one else will notice or be bothered.

I don't want anyone to flame you (or me), but that is my opinion.

--LG

That is disgusting. :mad:

lg10 Aug 22, 2006 4:23 pm

"the norm"
 

Originally Posted by drbond
There are NUMEROUS threads that will tell you POINT BLANK that the poster above is NOT the accepted norm. Do a search for diaper changes and you will see.
:td: Please do NOT change diapers in the cabin under any circumstances. :td:


Look, it may not be the flyertalk.com norm, but I'm not sure you can say
what is or is not the "accepted norm"...if it weren't a prevalent practice,
then it wouldn't have led to so much discussion.

I'm not really interested in getting flamed anymore; I just thought that
the OP deserved to hear the other side of the issue in a reasoned way.

--LG

jonesing Aug 22, 2006 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by lg10
It is my strong opinion that if you have a toddler and an infant, it is in
everyone's best interest to change your baby on your lap on a mat.

My wife changed our son's diaper whilst he was on her lap when he was 6 days old :eek: I had never seen such a thing done before! It didn't squick me out, I was more shocked at the balance/control needed to do such a thing...I chalked it up as another woman-only skill :D

WhoME Aug 22, 2006 8:34 pm

This topic has been discussed before, ad nauseum. Re-read the thread I linked above to see that your point has been made and responded to (ad infinitum) before getting into it all over again.

Michael

drbond Aug 22, 2006 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by lg10
Look, it may not be the flyertalk.com norm, but I'm not sure you can say
what is or is not the "accepted norm"...if it weren't a prevalent practice,
then it wouldn't have led to so much discussion.

I'm not really interested in getting flamed anymore; I just thought that
the OP deserved to hear the other side of the issue in a reasoned way.

--LG

Yes, I can say what an accepted norm is. Just because some people lack respect for others or just because, some people do not care about others health or don't have the dignity to change a diaper in private, does NOT make it acceptable. :td: Would a person change a diaper in the kitchen right before or after a meal? :td: Would a person change a diaper in the chapel during a church service? :td: That seat is where people eat. That seat is where everyone is forced to smell or be exposed to any bacteria. :td: Everyone's immune system is not the same and some could become sick from this action. :( It does not take a rocket scientist to have respect for others. :eek: Anyone whose parents raised them correctly would know what common descency is. ;)

Anyone that is not interested in getting flamed would not post a reply reiterating their position as the "OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE IN A REASONED WAY" :td: , that is begging for a response. ;)

N830MH Aug 22, 2006 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by WhoME
This topic has been discussed before, ad nauseum. Re-read the thread I linked above to see that your point has been made and responded to (ad infinitum) before getting into it all over again.

Michael

Yeah, when is that? How did you know about thread has been already discussions before?


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