Your baby is in my seat
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Your baby is in my seat
I'm warning you all.....this is a rant!
I should hope that not one single FT parent would have the audacity to pull this stunt which I experienced over the weekend. On a flight home from LAX on Delta, I was the last person on the plane. That was a whole new experience for me but I was held back at security for over 1 1/2 hours. Anyway, when I got on the plane and got to my seat in coach, a middle seat unfortunately, there was a baby in a car seat strapped to my seat. I asked the mother if there were some kind of mixup and showed her my boarding pass with 39B on it. She said that she wanted that seat for her little child and that the FA said she could have it.
The FAs were stuck up front but I hit the call button anyway. This woman was completely unreasonable and thought that since I was late getting to my "fabulous" seat, she should take it because she could not possibly hold her baby on the entire flight. I said that unless she bought a ticket, she would have to do just that.
A flight attendant finally came with the woman complaining that I'm causing her precious child to be inconvenienced and because of that, the baby will probably scream at the top of its lungs because of me. I told the FA I'd be happy to sit anywhere else on the plane (why not, I was in 39B). Well, the flight was overbooked and this wasn't going to happen. The FA said that she could NOT ask the woman to give up that seat. Of course you can and you must, I said as I am not leaving this plane since nobody else is ticketed for that seat. I then got the attention of the head FA. The woman then stated again that my being there would cause the baby to scream the entire flight. I retorted, "then you clearly won't be elected mother of the year by anybody with a brain". People laughed. The head of FA told the woman to free the seat and then checked the carry on seat. I took my seat and put on my music.
And you wonder why I think so little of parents today? Geeez.
I should hope that not one single FT parent would have the audacity to pull this stunt which I experienced over the weekend. On a flight home from LAX on Delta, I was the last person on the plane. That was a whole new experience for me but I was held back at security for over 1 1/2 hours. Anyway, when I got on the plane and got to my seat in coach, a middle seat unfortunately, there was a baby in a car seat strapped to my seat. I asked the mother if there were some kind of mixup and showed her my boarding pass with 39B on it. She said that she wanted that seat for her little child and that the FA said she could have it.
The FAs were stuck up front but I hit the call button anyway. This woman was completely unreasonable and thought that since I was late getting to my "fabulous" seat, she should take it because she could not possibly hold her baby on the entire flight. I said that unless she bought a ticket, she would have to do just that.
A flight attendant finally came with the woman complaining that I'm causing her precious child to be inconvenienced and because of that, the baby will probably scream at the top of its lungs because of me. I told the FA I'd be happy to sit anywhere else on the plane (why not, I was in 39B). Well, the flight was overbooked and this wasn't going to happen. The FA said that she could NOT ask the woman to give up that seat. Of course you can and you must, I said as I am not leaving this plane since nobody else is ticketed for that seat. I then got the attention of the head FA. The woman then stated again that my being there would cause the baby to scream the entire flight. I retorted, "then you clearly won't be elected mother of the year by anybody with a brain". People laughed. The head of FA told the woman to free the seat and then checked the carry on seat. I took my seat and put on my music.
And you wonder why I think so little of parents today? Geeez.
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Originally Posted by Analise
And you wonder why I think so little of parents today? Geeez.
Congratulations on getting the seat you rightfully deserved. I'll reserve my thoughts on your diplomacy and attitude towards parents. I'm sure you'll make a perfect mom, though, and will easily win "mother of the year" from everyone with a brain.
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A generalization? Absolutely. But if she weren't part of some kind of norm, the initial FA would not have told her that she could take a second seat on an overbooked flight. Of course both the FA and mother could have been isolated cases.
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
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Originally Posted by Analise
A generalization? Absolutely. But if she weren't part of some kind of norm, the initial FA would not have told her that she could take a second seat on an overbooked flight. Of course both the FA and mother could have been isolated cases.
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
The above taken with the FA's reluctance to have the car seat removed leaves me with a strong feeling that there is a back story here.
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Good for you! I'm glad you didn't let them push you around. And as far as the "parents today" comment.....I have to agree. Just look at how rotten and spoiled so many children are these days. Just sit in any public space and watch....whether it's the grocery store, a mall, a restaurant, etc. It's downright awful. Heck - just watch either of the nanny shows on TV and you'll see. (Note: I'm not saying all parents are like this or that all kids are spoiled brats - so please don't start any rants.....but if you take a look IN GENERAL compared to 10 or 20 years ago you can't deny that there is a HUGE difference in parenting.)
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Originally Posted by Analise
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
I'm sure that you'll learn that a six year old probably behaves WORSE than an infant, so be prepared to adjust your time horizon on that point. Meanwhile, I hope that you and your family don't mind letting life pass you by while you wait for your children to learn how to behave in public. Sometimes you just have to take what life throws at you and adapt. Thousands of parents do it on flights every day.
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Originally Posted by Analise
I won't put a baby through the ordeal of flying.
Newsflash: for the baby, flying is usually a piece of cake. It's the parents who go through an ordeal. My son started flying a 4 months and has never had a problem with it.
Originally Posted by Analise
A generalization? Absolutely. But if she weren't part of some kind of norm, the initial FA would not have told her that she could take a second seat on an overbooked flight. Of course both the FA and mother could have been isolated cases.
Originally Posted by Analise
If we are blessed to have children, we will do what our parents did when we were growing up. We didn't fly until we were old enough to know how to behave in public. Age 6 or so.
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
I am shocked at the mother's behavior, and applaud you for not taking the baby and stowing it in the overhead bin. That must have taken control.
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Originally Posted by SptCA
I'm sorry to hear that your children would remain at home until age 6 or so. Both they, and you, will miss out on so much by making that choice.
Originally Posted by dchistiva
I'm sure you'll make a perfect mom, though, and will easily win "mother of the year" from everyone with a brain.
Last edited by Analise; Mar 21, 2005 at 2:57 pm