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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 10:20 am
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This thread should be merged into one of the many other threads discussing the same topic. There's really nothing new to discuss and these threads tend to go downhill fast.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by VFR2EWR
12hour flight 2 weeks ago, the couple sitting across from me breast fed their screaming baby and then changed its diaper... Twice. FA's said nothing. This was my last straw with UA.

Had to vent...
What type of car are you going to be spending all your travel time in??? Cause this happens on every airline.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:08 am
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 1:16 pm
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The breastfeeding is fine and quite frankly, none of your beeswax. You don't like it, don't look. But I agree with you 100% on the diaper changing. That is disgusting, rude and totally inconsiderate. It's parents like these that give us sane and considerate parents a bad name. I would've said something to the FA.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 1:42 pm
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Since there are a couple of issues here (and, actually, the second issue may itself possess some duality of perspective), I'll take them separately...

Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?

As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 1:55 pm
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WHat kind of diaper change was that?
I would probably draw the line between two ahem common scenarios. And a couple times i had to change diaper in the seat (the less offensive kind ) because seatbelt sign was on in one case and there was a loooong line in another and current diaper leaked.

The choice was to essentially slowly soak myself, kids clothes and eventually the seat while waiting or make a quick change - i opted for the latter. Would definitely prefer doing it in a lav given an option.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 2:03 pm
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I was wondering if we were going to parse the different type of diaper changings, because that certainly occurred to me as well (especially assuming we're talking an infant).

It also occurred to me that if the tyke was being noisy, perhaps the parents hoped a diaper change (even if the seatbelt light was on) would quiet things down. It's possible that under the circumstances they were trying their best to be considerate of other pax.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by TMOliver
Since there are a couple of issues here (and, actually, the second issue may itself possess some duality of perspective), I'll take them separately...

Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?

As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).

OK, aside from the fact that I do believe diapers should be done in the lav (if there is actually even a changing table on board, that is...), I vote this best post ever on the topic of diaper changing in aircraft.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 2:34 pm
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Wait, we're complaining about a nonsexual act involving the exposure of a woman's breast? Prude Americans (yes I am an American also).
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Yoshi212
Wait, we're complaining about a nonsexual act involving the exposure of a woman's breast? Prude Americans (yes I am an American also).
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
It really depends on the lav. I now have eight flights under my belt with my three month old. Most of those flights had changing tables, but two did not (a CRJ and a Horizon turboprop). When she was just six pounds it wasn't so hard to change her in the RJ lav, just by putting the toilet seat down and throwing a disposable pad on it. Now, however, she's really too long to change on the lav seat, so it's become much more difficult. I suspect when she starts rolling it will be nearly impossible to change in such a small space.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by 6rugrats
This thread should be merged into one of the many other threads discussing the same topic. There's really nothing new to discuss and these threads tend to go downhill fast.
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Or maybe the OP could just go to one mega diaper rant thread and add a "+1" at the end?
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 12:23 am
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I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.

You use babypowder? I thought that was out because of the cancer risk... Even if that's not true, I really don't recommend it for travel for obvious reasons. One less item to drag (and we have enough stuff with babies!!!)

But anyway, no, it's not acceptable to do any kind of diaper change in the seat. It should be done in the lav, where there's a sink to wash and trash right there... Of course there are parents will will still but just be aware that this is not cool. Sometimes you are desperate but please don't routinely plan on doing the changes in the seat! Get up and use the lav when it's at all possible (and don't let long lines dissuade you, they usually let those with little one in first).
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 5:58 am
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It was in a cafe's tiny bathroom that wasn't much bigger than an Lav on a plane. I day baby powder but I'm pretty sure it was some baby safe organic powder of some sort considering the kid's mother.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 6:35 am
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Actually, the danger is in the child breathing it and something about cervical cancer in women? I didn't bother to look it up. I simply don't use it and didn't on my kids.

I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by Eclipsepearl
Actually, the danger is in the child breathing it and something about cervical cancer in women? I didn't bother to look it up. I simply don't use it and didn't on my kids.

I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
I believe 'talc' is out from a safety perspective for babies, but what you buy as baby powder these days is often actually 'corn starch' instead. Although my J&J powder in my purse is actually talc, I believe they do a cornstarch version as well.

My friend who uses cloth diapers never uses anything, but as I understand it, plastic coated diapers (Huggies, Pampers etc) can cause issues if you change the baby without thorough cleansing and drying first (which one imagines you cannot do in a airplane loo). The powder absorbs the extra moisture from the skin, and prevents nappy rash. As someone highly allergic to nappy / diaper rash cream (sudocreme, zincofax etc etc) corn starch is certainly my preference!
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