Changing a Diaper in First Class
#17
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What type of car are you going to be spending all your travel time in??? Cause this happens on every airline.
#19
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The breastfeeding is fine and quite frankly, none of your beeswax. You don't like it, don't look. But I agree with you 100% on the diaper changing. That is disgusting, rude and totally inconsiderate. It's parents like these that give us sane and considerate parents a bad name. I would've said something to the FA.
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Since there are a couple of issues here (and, actually, the second issue may itself possess some duality of perspective), I'll take them separately...
Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?
As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).
Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?
As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).
#21
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WHat kind of diaper change was that? 
I would probably draw the line between two ahem common scenarios. And a couple times i had to change diaper in the seat (the less offensive kind
) because seatbelt sign was on in one case and there was a loooong line in another and current diaper leaked.
The choice was to essentially slowly soak myself, kids clothes and eventually the seat while waiting or make a quick change - i opted for the latter. Would definitely prefer doing it in a lav given an option.

I would probably draw the line between two ahem common scenarios. And a couple times i had to change diaper in the seat (the less offensive kind
) because seatbelt sign was on in one case and there was a loooong line in another and current diaper leaked. The choice was to essentially slowly soak myself, kids clothes and eventually the seat while waiting or make a quick change - i opted for the latter. Would definitely prefer doing it in a lav given an option.
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I was wondering if we were going to parse the different type of diaper changings, because that certainly occurred to me as well (especially assuming we're talking an infant).
It also occurred to me that if the tyke was being noisy, perhaps the parents hoped a diaper change (even if the seatbelt light was on) would quiet things down. It's possible that under the circumstances they were trying their best to be considerate of other pax.
It also occurred to me that if the tyke was being noisy, perhaps the parents hoped a diaper change (even if the seatbelt light was on) would quiet things down. It's possible that under the circumstances they were trying their best to be considerate of other pax.
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Since there are a couple of issues here (and, actually, the second issue may itself possess some duality of perspective), I'll take them separately...
Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?
As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).
Whether in First, Business or Steerage, the OP's umbrage at a breast feeding says far more about the OP's narrow and unrealistic perspective than it does about the young mother's feeding her infant. Maybe it's the First Class bit...Is breast feeding OK in the back of the bus, but "lese majesty" up front among the tycoons, moguls, nobles and officers of flag rank?
As for diapering....In front or back of the plane, the two elements involved seem to me to differ a bit, one, pee, barely pushing the envelope, while poop does seem to offend against good order and discipline. It's been a long time since I underwent the travails of traveling fatherhood, but were it I changing an infant within the spectrum barely hatched thru about oneish, I'd really not give a tinker's damn about offense to Prince Philip of Tender Sensibilities or Princess Pat the Pretentious, when it comes to a wet diaper (although lap is a venue preferable to tray table, and wise parents always carry a plastic bag to preserve such items for proper disposal).
OK, aside from the fact that I do believe diapers should be done in the lav (if there is actually even a changing table on board, that is...), I vote this best post ever on the topic of diaper changing in aircraft.
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Wait, we're complaining about a nonsexual act involving the exposure of a woman's breast? Prude Americans (yes I am an American also).
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
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Wait, we're complaining about a nonsexual act involving the exposure of a woman's breast? Prude Americans (yes I am an American also).
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
Complaining about the diaper change is completely acceptable. It's not proper to do so. If the bathroom doesn't have a fold down for it don't most parents these days have those foam flaps to put a kid on? From my friends that have kids they can change a kid in under 60 seconds. Hell I even have done it a few times and didn't make a mess. I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
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#27
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I did walk out of the bathroom looking like I had been hanging out with Pablo Escobar (the baby powder) but it can be done in a confined space safely and cleanly.
You use babypowder? I thought that was out because of the cancer risk... Even if that's not true, I really don't recommend it for travel for obvious reasons. One less item to drag (and we have enough stuff with babies!!!)
But anyway, no, it's not acceptable to do any kind of diaper change in the seat. It should be done in the lav, where there's a sink to wash and trash right there... Of course there are parents will will still but just be aware that this is not cool. Sometimes you are desperate but please don't routinely plan on doing the changes in the seat! Get up and use the lav when it's at all possible (and don't let long lines dissuade you, they usually let those with little one in first).
You use babypowder? I thought that was out because of the cancer risk... Even if that's not true, I really don't recommend it for travel for obvious reasons. One less item to drag (and we have enough stuff with babies!!!)
But anyway, no, it's not acceptable to do any kind of diaper change in the seat. It should be done in the lav, where there's a sink to wash and trash right there... Of course there are parents will will still but just be aware that this is not cool. Sometimes you are desperate but please don't routinely plan on doing the changes in the seat! Get up and use the lav when it's at all possible (and don't let long lines dissuade you, they usually let those with little one in first).
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It was in a cafe's tiny bathroom that wasn't much bigger than an Lav on a plane. I day baby powder but I'm pretty sure it was some baby safe organic powder of some sort considering the kid's mother.
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Actually, the danger is in the child breathing it and something about cervical cancer in women? I didn't bother to look it up. I simply don't use it and didn't on my kids.
I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
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Actually, the danger is in the child breathing it and something about cervical cancer in women? I didn't bother to look it up. I simply don't use it and didn't on my kids.
I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
I'll merge this with the other thread on this subject. Too busy packing to do that now! Sorry!
My friend who uses cloth diapers never uses anything, but as I understand it, plastic coated diapers (Huggies, Pampers etc) can cause issues if you change the baby without thorough cleansing and drying first (which one imagines you cannot do in a airplane loo). The powder absorbs the extra moisture from the skin, and prevents nappy rash. As someone highly allergic to nappy / diaper rash cream (sudocreme, zincofax etc etc) corn starch is certainly my preference!

