Eclipsepearl

That machine looks a little scary. Is it up and running anywhere? If so, where?

Maybe your kids thought it was cool. I don't know. I'm just curious if anyone has any experience with these contraptions.

P.S. Sorry about the grammar but I decided to leave out the "has" on purpose to keep it brief.

grlittle

I have not personally taken the kids through, but I have seen other families go through the scanner at DEN. My best guess down to about 7 years, have not seen younger than that (I have a 5 y/o so I am basing my estimate on that). The ones I saw seemed OK and not afraid of the scanner. I think the TSA and parents must have helped them prep before entering.

hfly

I haven't with my children yet only because we have not encountered them. However I would of course take them through them, especially if it was quicker.

BillScann

I have a serious problem with my two little kids being subjected to this Kiddie Porn Machine.

It shows everything. And the images can be stored and transmitted. With my kids? No way.

Night Owl

Wonder how a loaded diaper will show up.

sbagdon

Depends on if it's a roller or not. True security would require you to change the diaper, to verify the solid mass is not something you're hiding.

Explosives puffer... no (scarry to most kids). Full body scan... no (scary to most parents).

The problem is, if you refuse a scanner, the requirement is the "basic" (not "enhanced") pat-down. Tough choice. Full image or grope.

4444

alright enough. i am against these useless machines as the next person but let's be real. kiddie porn? do feel the same way when you take your child to the doctor? can your child shower with a football coach in the locker room? enough with the porn issue...

BillScann

When nude images of my children can be digitally saved and later transmitted, I call that kiddie porn. And these machines can do both.

4444

BillScann

Here outside of OMNILand, we try to use, you know, cogent sentences to express ourselves.

Do you dispute the fact that images taken by an MMR or backscatter machine can be stored? And that these stored images could be easily dumped onto a thumb drive or other portable device? And that once stored, the images can be easily shared? What do you call the nude image of a child that is digitally stored and shared if not kiddie porn?

4444

thanks for the forum lesson. you are grasping at straws. i do not dispute anything you have said. i do dispute the fact that you assume someone would do the things you describe. i hate tsa also but am not going to start calling them pedophiles or kiddie porn peddlers...

crashtestd

With all the free online adult porn that is in color, what makes people think gray images of people, young or old, would be of interest. You are assuming the TSA agents are sick and perverted. That is an unfair assumption. Some also assume that their image will be sold to the internet community. Unless you are a ten+ in looks and bodily features, don't flatter yourself. You aren't that good to be desireable in black and white or gray. No visible features I might add. Just irregularities in body shapes. Come back to earth and get off the ego trip you are on. Get the facts before you complain. Jumping on the b**ch wagon is immature and childlike.
People like you are narrow minded fools.

BillScann

OK, I think I understand. We both acknowledge the fact that it is possible for rogue TSA employees to store nude images (of children, celebrities, attractive women and/or men) and either keep them for private viewing or upload for fun and profit.

The difference is while I think it is a near certainty it will happen, you seriously doubt this will come to pass.

BillScann

Welcome to FT! We like to avoid personal attacks and keep the conversations as civil as one can. To your point: the resolution is really quite high on these machines and the genitalia, nipples, etc. are all visible.

4444

i think it's jumping the gun a little. child pornography is a serious deal. not very responsible to accuse anyone of that without real evidence. any doctor, or coach or daycare worker could easily do the same as they have access to our children while we are not around. some sick ....... could set up a camera in a bathroom of a school or locker room but we cant accuse them upfront. i will simply refuse the scan and accept the grope not for any other reason than i think it's stupid and a waste of time. i did not mean to come off as harsh in my reply. if you feel the way you do then that's cool. dont let the kids go through. i just have heard the porn issue come up before and usually it is by some group trying to call attention to themselves. i am all for slamming the tsa but i wont play the porn card...