so from what point is it legitimate for a foreigner to call Thailand his/her home?
getting citizenship
PR
long term visa like LTR (10 years)
yearly extension of stay (retirement, spouse, work permit), like the large majority of expats in Thailand

'Bout damn time.

That's up to each person's interpretation. But what we know for sure is that those who do not hold a visa for the purpose of residence cannot legally call themselves a resident nor are they entitled to be granted entry as a resident. It's not factual. Or are you suggesting that those with a red stamp showing "ผ.60/ม.17" can legally claim that this is their home? They cannot. There is no legal basis for that.

I'm not sure why this had to be further elaborated? I thought it was a pretty standard matter across many countries

actually I do not think that there are any standards about this matter as every country has their own policies. Of course I agree with you that those staying for longer based on many visa exemptions and visa runs are not legitimate and I fully understand, that the officials are tightening the rules.

But "resident" and "home" are terms that have an individual interpretation and are probably not based on visa status. Even someone has a long term visa (LTR or Elite) he might be considered by many locals not as a resident or "at home"...

I totally get what you're saying about it being a subjective term; however I really do not believe Immigration cares what the locals think or how they interpret this information, hence why I emphasised so much on the 'legal' aspect of things.

Are you requesting entry as a resident and do you have a valid residence permit allowing you to legally claim this country as your "home"? Yes / No – it's that kind of questioning that I'm referring to.

It's important to mention this because, judging from some of the comments I see online (from self-confessed visa runners), these subset of people are still in denial + even trying to legitimise their "residency" status by bringing up either 1) the number of years they've managed to live here from doing these runs (hence Thailand is now their "home") and 2) their economic contribution, or something along those lines... When at the end of the day, these folks will likely be refused entry on their next run if they keep doing what they do...

I don't think anyone can call Thailand their "home" (legally or otherwise) when they can't even get past the Thai border.
The opinion of Thai citizens continues to remain irrelevant when it's the Thai government who rejected their entrance to the country.

And that's also precisely why I stated:
and not / instead of:
I hope this clears up my earlier post?

If you are using border runs back to back to back and aren't really a tourist, the answer is simple, apply for an appropriate visa. If you're a tourist, apply for a multiple entry TR visa, if you're over 50, apply for one of the retirement visas and then get extensions of stay based on retirement. If you're married to a Thai, apply for one of the marriage visas ... If all else fails, and you can't meet the definition of digital nomad, enroll in one of the soft power courses and apply for a DT Visa.

If your reason for objecting is personal, well, sorry dude, the party is over. They are merely enforcing rules already on the books. There were plenty of stories of people being told by an IO that this is their last exemption stamp entry and to get a visa next time or even some people refused entry at a land border because of serial use of border runs before this so-called new rule came out.

-David

are you talking with me?
I know all this quite well and also agree with it; I am not in Thailand on visa exemptions and/or visa runs...for years already...
I just questioned to relate technical visa and immigration questions with the rather abstract concepts of "resident" and "home"

ok, thanks for explaining.

-David

a bit more details and clarity for those with multiple entries on visa exemption

"Those with repeated stays exceeding 45 days or seven consecutive runs may be denied entry."

Bangkok Post - Immigration police target visitors making multiple visa runs

Where did it say this on the article? As I was unable to locate it.

My understanding up to this point is that there are no hard rule as to how many entries you can do per year, but rather how much time you spent on an exemption, or an exemption plus extension(s).

it was stated in the FB post of Bangkok Post (linked to their online news above):

They can make the laws, but enforcing them is the real issue. The visa runs will evolve to skirt this 'enforcememt', if it hasn't already. As far I can tell from what has been published, Immigration hasn't figured out what the real problem is. Catching 3000 people is just a drop in the bucket.

Trust the Bangkok Post at your own peril. It's informative to know what the rumors are, but for facts, I'd look elsewhere.

-David

Bangkok Post is for me one of the more trustworthy media in Bangkok...so where would you look then for facts about limitations on visa run? Royal Gazette? then you can wait for ever as this is not a legal issue but internal policies, how law is inforced...

Official Thailand Public Relations announcement:

Visa Runs Limited to 2 Under New Thailand Immigration Measures


https://thailand.prd.go.th/en/conten...lar%20patterns.