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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31035272)
I'm guessing there is less demand for gates at midnight.
I had paid for buggy pick-up at the gate, not a happy camper. |
...and quite a few long haul departures around midnight by TG, mainly to Europe. The list is not complete:
23:45 TG920 to FRA 00:01 TG473 to BNE 00:05 TG930 to CDG 00:15 TG465 to MEL 00:20 TG944 to FCO 00:30 TG934 to BRU 00:50 TG924 to MUC 00:55 TG910 to LHR 00:55 TG954 to OSL 01:05 TG970 to ZRH 01:10 TG960 to ARN 01:20 TG950 to CPH 01:20 TG936 to VIE These departing aircraft may have arrived from short/med haul flights, including domestic flights. |
TG at its best: arrived on a full A380 and were already late, plenty of gate positions empty (including A380 gates) and sure enough turned right for an apron position. Then the usual chaos, the first bus left with just a few people despite displaying "first/business" and the other J pax had to wait quite a bit for another "regular" bus. Then got the full airport bus tour and a long wait at really hot transfer security (what was the person desgining the airport smoking?), so barely made my connection on a scheduled 2+ hour layover and got to the plane all sweaty.
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Yes. TG/PG or even WE (to an extent) use a lot of bus gates because BKK is their hub airport. It is not about saving cost but it is more about not having to move empty aircraft from one place to the other with a push back truck. When you get a bus gate, it’s one of the following: - You’re on an international flight but plane parked on domestic gate. - You’re on a domestic flight but plane parked at an international gate. - You’re about to board a flight where the plane was idle for more than 3 hours (so it did not park at a gate because they did not want to pay the airport the opportunity cost). - You’re just disembarking from a plane that has no scheduled flight after your flight for more than 3 hours. |
Originally Posted by pandalama
(Post 31092921)
Yes. TG/PG or even WE (to an extent) use a lot of bus gates because BKK is their hub airport. It is not about saving cost but it is more about not having to move empty aircraft from one place to the other with a push back truck. When you get a bus gate, it’s one of the following: - You’re on an international flight but plane parked on domestic gate. - You’re on a domestic flight but plane parked at an international gate. - You’re about to board a flight where the plane was idle for more than 3 hours (so it did not park at a gate because they did not want to pay the airport the opportunity cost). - You’re just disembarking from a plane that has no scheduled flight after your flight for more than 3 hours. |
These bus gates really annoy me so I've been voting with my wallet and spending my money with SQ . With a bit of planning, the difference in fare for J is fairly negligible for a much better hard and soft product + guaranteed gate that's typically located a stone's throw from the lounge so it isn't a really difficult choice!
A could of week back I thought I'd give TG a go again on the BKK-SIN route and it was a bus so I've more or less given up on them now. I just use ROP to credit miles and cash in a 1st class long haul every now and again. |
Originally Posted by pandalama
(Post 31092921)
Yes. TG/PG or even WE (to an extent) use a lot of bus gates because BKK is their hub airport. It is not about saving cost but it is more about not having to move empty aircraft from one place to the other with a push back truck. Ironic that an airline which is so bloated in other respects chooses to cut costs in a way which impacts the passenger experience so negatively. |
Originally Posted by Thaikwai
(Post 31093046)
It's irrelevant......THAI wants to be in the top 5 airlines in the world, as stated by their (latest) new President last year........what a joke......tell me the last time you remember being "bused" in Singapore or Hong Kong or Seoul? SQ and CX are acknowledged regional leaders, Korean not so much, but THAI are soooooo far behind their regional competitors its no wonder they are losing money, despite all the fleet upgrades
The frequent bus action, unusually frequent aircraft changes (was scheduled to go lie-flat on an A350 and ended up on an ancient B744) plus the mediocre lounges and the terrible airport (hot, long ways to just about anything, slow and ineffective transfer security ...) are just some of the features that do not make TG 5* or a top 5 airline. The donation to Skytrax would have to be very high to make it happen. |
Originally Posted by worldclubber
(Post 31095245)
The donation to Skytrax would have to be very high to make it happen. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 31095270)
Yes, probably even more than LH had to pay.
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In my opinion the reason for behind this only for confortable of worker and thier procedure since if you arrive from Domestic and you want plane stop at contact gate after disembarked PAXs,
Then same aircraft will serve at international route again they need addtional tractor service for move aircraft to international flight gate again. its Cost TG. and additional personel. |
If it's because they don't want to move the aircraft from international to domestic gate, which domestic route gets the 380?
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Apparently there are only 5 gates capable of handling A380s, so when Emirates and a couple of other foreign A380s are parked (always at a jet bridge), then I guess the TG A380s have to park up at the apron.........
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Last Thursday, arrived on SQ 982 ... we had to wait 15 mins after touch down and taxi because the aircraft using the gate had not yet departed. If I recall it was D7 (?). I’d rather a bus than wait. Maybe the issue is the airport is at / beyond capacity ? |
Originally Posted by EGW1
(Post 31096288)
Maybe the issue is the airport is at / beyond capacity ? |
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