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Old Nov 6, 2017, 8:41 pm
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Maybe something is wrong with their Revenue Management, last nights TG475 BKK-SYD went out with just 3 pax in F
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Old Nov 11, 2017, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
Maybe something is wrong with their Revenue Management, last nights TG475 BKK-SYD went out with just 3 pax in F
And the return on TG476 was 4 pax but we acquired another after the doors were closed, TIP

Not sure why they prefer empty seats to offering awards
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Old Nov 11, 2017, 8:14 am
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Company policy lads. Just because the seats go unsold doesn't mean the company releases them for upgrades/awards (US airlines' style). Best way to describe this logic is "protecting the cabin".
Potential paying customers might instead wait it out for the upgrades, hurting TG revenue. SQ/LH/NH/OZ/LX all use this business strategy.
Same to hotels with suits.
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Old Nov 11, 2017, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
Company policy lads. Just because the seats go unsold doesn't mean the company releases them for upgrades/awards (US airlines' style). Best way to describe this logic is "protecting the cabin".
Potential paying customers might instead wait it out for the upgrades, hurting TG revenue. SQ/LH/NH/OZ/LX all use this business strategy.
Same to hotels with suits.
Certainly not LH policy, at T-14 they release award space to *A partners, extremely rare to see LH F go out with a half empty cabin !
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Old Nov 11, 2017, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
And the return on TG476 was 4 pax but we acquired another after the doors were closed, TIP

Not sure why they prefer empty seats to offering awards
mileage run with a immediate return on same plane?
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
Certainly not LH policy, at T-14 they release award space to *A partners, extremely rare to see LH F go out with a half empty cabin !
Pretty often that LH goes out with a less than half full cabin. Maybe not to some of the very heavy F routes, but even on Tokyo I have experienced 1 or 2 in the cabin. At T-14 LH releases award space to partners in general, but I am not sure they potentially fill the cabin with awards. Please note that until T-14,they generally don't release to partners at all.

LX is an even more restricted example. They don't release to partners period.
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 7:18 pm
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mileage run with a immediate return on same plane?
No, flights were days apart
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 7:26 pm
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Pretty often that LH goes out with a less than half full cabin. Maybe not to some of the very heavy F routes, but even on Tokyo I have experienced 1 or 2 in the cabin. At T-14 LH releases award space to partners in general, but I am not sure they potentially fill the cabin with awards. Please note that until T-14,they generally don't release to partners at all.

LX is an even more restricted example. They don't release to partners period.
This thread is about poor award availability to SYD, on the flights I took the cabin was not half full but no awards were being offered for those flights days before.

Tokyo is a low F route for LH which is why it’s going to lose F capacity, LH RM is very good & at least they try to fill the cabin with awards/upgrades whilst retaining some last minute paid ticket capacity.
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
This thread is about poor award availability to SYD, on the flights I took the cabin was not half full but no awards were being offered for those flights days before.

Tokyo is a low F route for LH which is why it’s going to lose F capacity, LH RM is very good & at least they try to fill the cabin with awards/upgrades whilst retaining some last minute paid ticket capacity.
Yet, you compared the TG policy to the LH one.

And tbh, the situation of the F cabin going out with open seats and no awards available will happen on LH as well as on TG. I don't see why it should not, if it is too easy to get an award last minute it will hurt revenue bookings. Cue the long discussions of United and AA passengers unwilling to pay for J but very reluctant to sit in Y and basically expecting it to be possible to upgrade to J. It is not good for revenue.
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Old Nov 14, 2017, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
F awards until 6th October 2018 have been depleted.
However, there will definitely be buyer's remorse by UA flyers and cancellations should bring back some normalcy to the availability.
Definitely happening. Have a booking BKK-SYD in F. Was showing F7 with 3 seats allocated for months. Week before UA devaluation it showed F1 with most seats taken. Last week showed F4 and now back at F6.
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Old Nov 18, 2017, 7:23 pm
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Thanks everyone for your comments (and thanks UA - NOT - for the devaluation). Happy traveling!!
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