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Old Feb 3, 2014, 5:19 pm
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Thai 787

Looks like first routes are HND and PER.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/02/03/tg-787update1/

http://www.ausbt.com.au/thai-airways...-perth-in-july

I think they have a new config of biz? Still staggered 1-2-1 but the design is more like new f on 787.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 6:27 pm
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I'm curious about economy. UA has their 787-8s configured for 219 (36/183) And they are using 9-across seating.

THAI's configuration in this article is said to be 264 seats (24/240). Is THAI really getting 45 more seats in this airplane than United has in theirs?
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 6:38 pm
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I would love to see 787s with F. BA is rumored to be planning it for the 787-8.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Sam Drucker
I'm curious about economy. UA has their 787-8s configured for 219 (36/183) And they are using 9-across seating.

THAI's configuration in this article is said to be 264 seats (24/240). Is THAI really getting 45 more seats in this airplane than United has in theirs?
2-2-2 for Biz
3-3-3 for Y

Just 4 rows for Biz, leaving more space for Y

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I would love to see 787s with F. BA is rumored to be planning it for the 787-8.
I would too, but unfortunately, that's not gonna happen!
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by kittiyut
2-2-2 for Biz
3-3-3 for Y

Just 4 rows for Biz, leaving more space for Y
You differ from what the OP says (staggered 1-2-1 Biz).

Does anybody have an authoritative source?
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by 5khours
I would love to see 787s with F. BA is rumored to be planning it for the 787-8.
You mean the 787-9..? Yes, that's on the cards. From my interview with BA's product guy at their 787 launch last year:

"It's very likely that we’ll have a first class cabin in the 787-9" says Frank van der Post, BA’s Managing Director of Brands and Customer Experience. "It may not be a full cabin of 12 to 14 seats, it will be a little bit smaller."

"But there is an option for us to convert some of the 787-9 orders to 787-10s, and first class makes sense in the -10" van der Post told Australian Business Traveller.

"We have a lot of long distance flights to premium destinations where we need a four-class configuration, and the -10 gets a lot closer to the capacity of the Boeing 747."
http://www.ausbt.com.au/ba-plans-fir...7-9-and-787-10

I'd expect that Thai may well squeeze a compact F cabin into its -9. China Southern's done this in its -8, only four seats but they're their for the top end of the market, and especially useful for passengers booking two-flight trips where one leg has F, they'd want the other to have that as well.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Sam Drucker
You differ from what the OP says (staggered 1-2-1 Biz). Does anybody have an authoritative source?
The most authoritative source to date (at least as far as I'm aware) is Thai's statements to me earlier this week confirming a J count of 24 seats. They didn't specify the config or offer any other hard product details.

But everything points to this being the same 1-2-1 staggered EADS Sogerma 'Solstys' as already seen on the B777 and A380 would be in order. That's what PriestmanGoode has been working on and the company has also said their project will be fitted to Thai's 787s and A350s. Going 2-2-2 would be a retrograde step and totally blow Thai's efforts at product consistency.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by djsflynn
You mean the 787-9..? Yes, that's on the cards. From my interview with BA's product guy at their 787 launch last year:



http://www.ausbt.com.au/ba-plans-fir...7-9-and-787-10

I'd expect that Thai may well squeeze a compact F cabin into its -9. China Southern's done this in its -8, only four seats but they're their for the top end of the market, and especially useful for passengers booking two-flight trips where one leg has F, they'd want the other to have that as well.
Yes -9. Thanks for the info.
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Old Feb 5, 2014, 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by djsflynn
Thai's efforts at product consistency.
I don't believe Thai has such a goal!

I'm aware of issues regarding certification of seats for specific aircraft types etc but you only have to look at the recent 747 refit to know that consistency is not on their agenda!
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Old Feb 6, 2014, 12:17 am
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AFAIK they are putting the staggered 1-2-1 seats into the 787, whith the new colur sceheme (a la new F) which they're also retrofitting the 777's with
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Old Feb 6, 2014, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by djsflynn
Going 2-2-2 would be a retrograde step and totally blow Thai's efforts at product consistency.
Man, I can totally relate to that statement. I went to BKK in December on the 777-300ER. Loved the staggered lay-flat 1-2-1 seating in business.

While there and working with my reservations, I noted that my return reservation had it's seat assignment dropped. I later discovered the reason why: THAI decided sometime in December (after seats had already been sold and assigned) to downgrade the LAX route to a 777-200ER from mid-January through the end of March.

I rode back to LAX in that angled not-quite-flat seat. I feel like THAI owes me something for this bait-and-switch tactic.

The obvious answer is that if they want to interchange the 777-200ER's and 300ERs, they need to upgrade the -200ER's business seating to the current, staggered lay-flat product.

It's a poor way of doing business to advertise the staggered lay-flat product on the localized website and Facebook, then pull the rug out from under customers and claim "It's still business class . . ." Shameful!
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Old Feb 10, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Anyone know (or have any guess as to) when these flights will become bookable?
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Old Feb 10, 2014, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by dinosims
Anyone know (or have any guess as to) when these flights will become bookable?
It already is.

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Old Feb 10, 2014, 10:07 pm
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Hmm, I was actually wondering more about the HND-BKK flight - don't seem to see that coming up as available for any award seats, so I was curious as to whether it's been loaded into the system yet (and there's just no availability), or if I just need to wait a bit longer.
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Old Feb 10, 2014, 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by dinosims
Hmm, I was actually wondering more about the HND-BKK flight - don't seem to see that coming up as available for any award seats, so I was curious as to whether it's been loaded into the system yet (and there's just no availability), or if I just need to wait a bit longer.
The new flights doesn't seem to be loaded yet.
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