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Bobster Feb 12, 2008 10:09 pm

There is an OMNI thread with the title: Is A Daily Show cancelled?

I entered a search of "Daily Show cancelled" (without the quotes) and did not find that thread, all I get is one old thread that is not related. However, if I search for "Daily" or "Daily Show" or "A Daily Show" (without the quotes) I do find the thread.

Is the question mark in the thread title a problem? The search works just so long as I don't use the word in the title that has a question mark attached to it ("cancelled?"). Adding a question mark to the search doesn't help.

ed1 Feb 12, 2008 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by Bobster (Post 9242112)
There is an OMNI thread with the title: Is A Daily Show cancelled?

I entered a search of "Daily Show cancelled" (without the quotes) and did not find that thread, all I get is one old thread that is not related. However, if I search for "Daily" or "Daily Show" or "A Daily Show" (without the quotes) I do find the thread.

Is the question mark in the thread title a problem? The search works just so long as I don't use the word in the title that has a question mark attached to it ("cancelled?"). Adding a question mark to the search doesn't help.

Are you sure you also spelled canceled wrong? If you did spell it wrong (the way the OP did), then the search must be intermittent:


Search: Key Word(s): cancelled, show, daily
Sort results by:
Forum: OMNI 02/09/2008 16:14:29
100%
Is A Daily Show cancelled?
Posted By Eastbay1K
Is A Daily Show cancelled?

I suspect on Monday, The Daily Show will return, replacing A Daily Show, possibly forever. Thoughts?

Wilbur Feb 13, 2008 8:17 am

The new search is problematic for me in a couple of ways.

For instance, I would like to read the reviews for the DFW Westin.

1. The basic search return for "Westin Dallas" is:

100% Q1 2008 SPG Promo is Up
BlondeBomber 02/10/2008 14:45:52 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
18% 2007 : Your Travel Year in Review
uclabruin82 12/28/2007 19:47:13 Forum: Trip Reports
16% Report Your Platinum Upgrade Successes
OkieFlyer 12/27/2007 09:29:30 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

The "Advanced Search" return for the "Dallas Westin", focused on the SPG fourm, is:

100% Q1 2008 SPG Promo is Up
BlondeBomber 02/10/2008 14:45:52 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
50% The SPG Forum FAQ & Primary Resource Thread
AZ Travels the World 06/02/2007 12:51:11 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
47% Westin Galleria Dallas: Disappointing
ILUVCITIBANK 03/12/2007 03:27:34 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

Neither of these is the thread I really want to read, which after scrolling through several pages of the SPG forum, is:

dallas/ft.worth airport Westin or Sheraton?
Anglo Large Clawed Otter 12/18/2007 12:41:39 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

2. The drop-down for refining the search results includes "Relevance", "posts", etc. However, the actual results appear to be off considerably. For instance, if I search on my own username by "posts", it provides me a list of threads that I have posted in recently, but it does not include all of them. Furthermore, it sorts the threads by when I posted in them, not by the most recent post date.

Hope this helps.

ed1 Feb 13, 2008 9:06 am


Originally Posted by Wilbur (Post 9243680)
The new search is problematic for me in a couple of ways.

For instance, I would like to read the reviews for the DFW Westin.

1. The basic search return for "Westin Dallas" is:

100% Q1 2008 SPG Promo is Up
BlondeBomber 02/10/2008 14:45:52 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
18% 2007 : Your Travel Year in Review
uclabruin82 12/28/2007 19:47:13 Forum: Trip Reports
16% Report Your Platinum Upgrade Successes
OkieFlyer 12/27/2007 09:29:30 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

The "Advanced Search" return for the "Dallas Westin", focused on the SPG fourm, is:

100% Q1 2008 SPG Promo is Up
BlondeBomber 02/10/2008 14:45:52 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
50% The SPG Forum FAQ & Primary Resource Thread
AZ Travels the World 06/02/2007 12:51:11 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest
47% Westin Galleria Dallas: Disappointing
ILUVCITIBANK 03/12/2007 03:27:34 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

Neither of these is the thread I really want to read, which after scrolling through several pages of the SPG forum, is:

dallas/ft.worth airport Westin or Sheraton?
Anglo Large Clawed Otter 12/18/2007 12:41:39 Forum: Starwood Preferred Guest

2. The drop-down for refining the search results includes "Relevance", "posts", etc. However, the actual results appear to be off considerably. For instance, if I search on my own username by "posts", it provides me a list of threads that I have posted in recently, but it does not include all of them. Furthermore, it sorts the threads by when I posted in them, not by the most recent post date.

Hope this helps.

2. Should give you several pages of results (I get all my posts back to 2002 in 56 pages of results) When I change the sorting (not for refining) to date it sorts all 56 pages by date (most recent on top of page 1).

For your posts I get 32 pages with a total of 784 posts, which would include 7 deleted posts, if the math is working correctly. Your most recent post shows as this one and your first shows as 04/22/2004. Are you sure you selected "Search all open forums," had nothing in keyword, and "* Forever" in the Find items posted within the past:?

The easiest way to see your posts is just to use Quick Links> My Posts.

KevinSours Feb 13, 2008 9:10 am


Originally Posted by lin821 (Post 9241366)
As I was saying I was not sure the problems were part of the current search feature. Search problem or not, they need to be fixed (eventually, I guess.). If the problems I am experiencing are not among the top priorities, I'll understand. I know you guys have a "bigger fire" to put out for the moment being. But I will appreciate the acknowledgement that your tech team will work on it. That's whole beauty of providing feedback to IT folks, isn't it? :)

I didn't mean to brush the problem off. Its just that as a developer I have a tendency to like to but bugs in their proper category :)

I'll try to look into it when I have the time -- which isn't likely to be immediately.
Kevin

KevinSours Feb 13, 2008 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Wilbur (Post 9243680)
1. The basic search return for "Westin Dallas" is:

This is definitely a problem. I'll log it for the search team.


Originally Posted by Wilbur (Post 9243680)
2. The drop-down for refining the search results includes "Relevance", "posts", etc. However, the actual results appear to be off considerably. For instance, if I search on my own username by "posts", it provides me a list of threads that I have posted in recently, but it does not include all of them. Furthermore, it sorts the threads by when I posted in them, not by the most recent post date.

Can you provide an example of a post that you made that doesn't show in the search results?
Kevin

ed1 Feb 13, 2008 9:30 am


Originally Posted by KevinSours (Post 9244000)
This is definitely a problem. I'll log it for the search team.



Can you provide an example of a post that you made that doesn't show in the search results?
Kevin

Kevin, please see my answer to Wilbur about his searching for his posts, I found all 784 of his in 32 pages of results.

BTW, did you see my edit 2 I just added to my last reply to you?

bostonbali Feb 13, 2008 10:53 am

Most frustrating to me has been the Search > Advanced Search > Search by User Name.
That's how I keep up with threads where I've had input (where I posted). The current search feature does NOT allow me to see those posts, organized by most recent post date (as the old search feature did).

This limits the usefulness of FT to me at the moment, which is a shame... :(

KevinSours Feb 13, 2008 11:00 am


Originally Posted by bostonbali (Post 9244765)
Most frustrating to me has been the Search > Advanced Search > Search by User Name.
That's how I keep up with threads where I've had input (where I posted). The current search feature does NOT allow me to see those posts, organized by most recent post date (as the old search feature did).

The new search doesn't have the capability to sort by most recent post date. It turns out that this is not going to be easy to implement in the new model. It something we definitely want to do.
Kevin

ed1 Feb 13, 2008 11:39 am


Originally Posted by bostonbali (Post 9244765)
Most frustrating to me has been the Search > Advanced Search > Search by User Name.
That's how I keep up with threads where I've had input (where I posted). The current search feature does NOT allow me to see those posts, organized by most recent post date (as the old search feature did).

This limits the usefulness of FT to me at the moment, which is a shame... :(

While it's only a work-around, and it only works if you use the default auto-subscribe to all threads to which you post, Quick Links>Subscribed Threads will be ordered by the thread with the most recent post to it on top (the same way the threads list in the forums do). This is what I've been using for years to track both the threads where I've posted and those where I've subscribed (even though I haven't posted in them).

SkyTeam777 Feb 13, 2008 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by KevinSours (Post 9244809)
The new search doesn't have the capability to sort by most recent post date. It turns out that this is not going to be easy to implement in the new model. It something we definitely want to do.
Kevin

Thanks Kevin...still it's a bit sad because for many it deletes half the benefits of the usage of FT...we hope it can be fixed soon. Thanks for your hard work on it.

In the meantime, I selected no email notification in my subscribed threads section on my profile because I dont want to be emailed everytime someone posts but I do want to see a list of my posts and choose what I want to read. It is showing no subscribed threads for me now, does it only show threads I respond to post changing my preference? or will my previous posts show up at some point?

Kiwi Flyer Feb 13, 2008 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by KevinSours (Post 9240983)
Do you actually know of a large VB board that uses the internal VB search?
Kevin

No. FT is the only large board I visit. Thanks for checking though.

BTW when I searched just now for posts by you and sort by date it picks up nothing more recent than your reply quoted above. Is the indexing not being updated continuously?

KevinSours Feb 13, 2008 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9245762)
No. FT is the only large board I visit. Thanks for checking though.

BTW when I searched just now for posts by you and sort by date it picks up nothing more recent than your reply quoted above. Is the indexing not being updated continuously?

It looks like the indexer got hit with a large number of posts to index. I'm not sure why exactly ... I haven't done any reindexing since the last time the index queue cleared. It could be that the mods did some house cleaning on some large threads or something that would require reindexing a lot of old posts at once. When the indexer gets hit like that, it can take a while for it to catch up.

I pushed up the index rate a little, so hopefully it will catch up.
Kevin

Wilbur Feb 13, 2008 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by KevinSours (Post 9244000)
Can you provide an example of a post that you made that doesn't show in the search results?
Kevin


No, I just tried again, and the return is now everything I remember posting in the past week. Thank you for the fix.

ScottC Feb 13, 2008 7:31 pm

I don't mind the current search, for one reason: FT is now faster than it's been in a long time.

I love a good working search, but I'd trade it for a working site anytime.


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