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bocastephen Oct 24, 2022 2:28 pm

Issues related to 24 October 2022 upgrade
 
Since the "update" this morning, after which I was logged out, every time I close the browser window hosting FT and open a new window and reload the page, I am being forced to log back in.

angetenar Oct 24, 2022 3:14 pm

I am also having this issue

Fredd Oct 24, 2022 3:59 pm

What update? While I can still see my traditional home page on my iPhone, I’m seeing a different home page on my desktop that’s missing some items. For some reason I also lost my subscription to this forum.

What’s going on?

Edit: The problem seems to with using Firefox on my desktop. I can log in with Edge. Yet I can log in on Firefox using another desktop. Is this an enhancement as I approach my 20th year on FT? ;)

Update: I noticed the lengthy "enhancement" thread and cleared my FT cache from Firefox. It's now working again. I don't recall such problems in 2002 but I was younger then.

Zorak Oct 24, 2022 4:04 pm

Dunno if we want to start a new thread for today's enhancements, but the dropdown menus at the top of the thread aren't working, i.e. 'Thread Tools", "Search this Thread", and "Rate Thread".

... or are they? For me anyway, they seem to work on /this/ thread. They aren't working however on:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...er-thread.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...master-16.html

or a few other Hyatt threads I spot checked. They get underlined when you hover over them, but nothing happens when you click on them.

Delta forum: working

I wondered if it might have something to do with the hotel reviews functionality, but nope, Marriott forum: working

Dunno what's special about Hyatt, but...

and yes, this is with any blocking turned off, and I have cleared cookies and cache, forced a reload, logged out/in again etc.

EDIT: have since found other Hyatt forum threads where those menus DO work. No idea what's special about the ones where it doesn't work. Maybe # of photos or time to load or something.

Fredd Oct 24, 2022 4:36 pm

I had a problem today and first spotted the thread below. In short, I was getting some strange alternative home page on my desktop, yet the traditional website still displayed on Mrs. Fredd's desktop and on my iPhone.

After reading here, I confirmed that it would display properly on a different browser, and cleared the cache for FT in my Firefox browser. Now it's working fine. Thanks to those who mentioned that.

Edit: I failed to mention that my subscription to this forum had dropped and I had to re-subscribe. It seemed an ironic touch.

serpens Oct 24, 2022 4:55 pm

I was forced to login today, and was rewarded with the new 3-D looking icon on each post to alert a moderator and the new style icon in the MyFlyerTalk view indicating at least one unread post in a subscribed forum. Unfortunately, double-clicking that new icon in the MyFlyerTalk view for the Technical Support and Feedback forum still does not mark all posts in that forum as read. Since that action works in every other forum to which I've subscribed, I've got to think it's a programming error, and one with an easy fix. Could tech support please fix that issue before tossing cosmetic changes? Thanks.

DELee Oct 24, 2022 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 34706450)
Dunno if we want to start a new thread for today's enhancements, but the dropdown menus at the top of the thread aren't working, i.e. 'Thread Tools", "Search this Thread", and "Rate Thread".

... or are they? For me anyway, they seem to work on /this/ thread. They aren't working however on:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...er-thread.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyat...master-16.html

or a few other Hyatt threads I spot checked. They get underlined when you hover over them, but nothing happens when you click on them.

Delta forum: working

I wondered if it might have something to do with the hotel reviews functionality, but nope, Marriott forum: working

Dunno what's special about Hyatt, but...

and yes, this is with any blocking turned off, and I have cleared cookies and cache, forced a reload, logged out/in again etc.

EDIT: have since found other Hyatt forum threads where those menus DO work. No idea what's special about the ones where it doesn't work. Maybe # of photos or time to load or something.

Having similar issues on Andriod and Chrome. FT website says I'm logged in but none of the already read threads are unbolded. Selecting into any thread starts from post 1. Also, now video ads are showing through that can't be closed/stopped.

This is just lame.

David

Can one or both of these be changed? There's very little distinction between them from either a color and/or contrast perspective:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...00ccd10d71.jpg

This is really poor UI design. Since these are supposed to be different, make them different - different color, different highlighting, different content.

Another example where having multiple icons in a column makes it hard to distinguish a read forum from an unread forum:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3a78659630.jpg

Maybe have _nothing_ on the read forum icon? Maybe turning its background white or buff?

Maybe going back to unbolding of the read fora?

David

GW McLintock Oct 24, 2022 8:11 pm

Bring Back the Old Smileys
 
Respectfully... the new smileys are atrocious. They look ridiculous (exaggerated), the colors are obnoxious, and the quality is lower than ever before.

Nobody asked for new smileys (and if they did, they were mistaken).

Please bring back the old ones https://web.archive.org/web/20070701....com/frown.gif

-J.

Skyman65 Oct 24, 2022 10:17 pm

www.flyertalk.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding.
 
Starting this morning, every time I attempt to access FT, I get this message on a loop that my connection security needs to be reviewed. I get prompted numerous times, over and over, to verify that I am human. I do the image captchas numerous times. Goes back into the loop that it is verifying my connection. It takes about 5-10 minutes of this loop, verifying over and over before it finally seems satisfied that I am, indeed, human.

Don't know what you guys did to the system (assuming it's a change you made), but in its current state, it has rendered FT effectively unusable for me.

SonicStar817 Oct 24, 2022 11:06 pm

I have this as well. It's very annoying. There seem to be more ads as well, especially one that floats around the middle of the screen on the mobile version of the site.

DYKWIA Oct 24, 2022 11:07 pm

Yeah, FT went down for a while about 08:00 (West Coast time) and something was implemented. I keep getting the same message as above.

sbrower Oct 24, 2022 11:17 pm

I am using Chrome (2 different computers). Need to Log In every time today.

TomMM Oct 25, 2022 12:05 am

Same here with the addition of the verify your secure connection captcha.

Same here.

asovse1 Oct 25, 2022 12:18 am

I have a hong kong-based sim card and whenever I access FT on mobile data, this happens. Since I'm physically based in Canada, it works fine on any other connection. Might be regional?

Dave_C Oct 25, 2022 1:38 am

Also happening for me here as well.

Also, I can never access the site when I'm on the train via the Wi-Fi provided by the train company here in the UK. Keeps on saying that it's blocked. How are you going to serve all these ad impressions to me if you won't even let me on the site.

LondonAussie Oct 25, 2022 1:50 am

I'm in the UK and starting today each time I visit this site or open a new topic I now have to verify I'm human by picking out pictures of lions from cats or other similar tests to prove I'm somehow not a robot. .

Is this really necessary?

oliver2002 Oct 25, 2022 2:30 am

It seems FT is under a DDOS like attack (again) and cloudflare has gone into defcon 3 mode... :(

vintagepilot Oct 25, 2022 3:28 am

Are you sure you want to send a form again? - Is it me?
 
Had to log in yesterday - and now when I go to FT, I get a temporary page saying that that FT need to check the security of my connection.

And whenever I view a thread, and then click back in the browser to return to the forum, it asks if I want to send the form again.

Cleared my caches and re-booted. All browsers, on Mac.

Misco60 Oct 25, 2022 3:49 am


Originally Posted by vintagepilot (Post 34707223)
Had to log in yesterday - and now when I go to FT, I get a temporary page saying that that FT need to check the security of my connection.

And whenever I view a thread, and then click back in the browser to return to the forum, it asks if I want to send the form again.

Not just you. It's really annoying.

The "fun facts" about internet security that are displayed while my connection is being checked are also really irritating and completely unnecessary.

CPH-Flyer Oct 25, 2022 4:37 am

Same here on android and chrome, getting fairly annoying with all of the secure connection checks.

HadesNL Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...900b710f9.jpeg
Yes it pops up now:
IOS 15.7 Safari from Amsterdam
Since yesterday evening

swag Oct 25, 2022 6:15 am


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 34706616)
Can one or both of these be changed? There's very little distinction between them from either a color and/or contrast perspective:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...00ccd10d71.jpg

This is really poor UI design. Since these are supposed to be different, make them different - different color, different highlighting, different content.

Another example where having multiple icons in a column makes it hard to distinguish a read forum from an unread forum:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3a78659630.jpg

Maybe have _nothing_ on the read forum icon? Maybe turning its background white or buff?

Maybe going back to unbolding of the read fora?

David

Agree completely. Bold v unbold made it easy to see read forums. The current design is much worse at this.

Buster Oct 25, 2022 6:22 am

Same. I have to log in every time I come to the site, on both Chrome and Safari.

angetenar Oct 25, 2022 8:07 am

On the topic of the forum icon, the new ones I would say are a strict downgrade from the previous ones. They are more generic so they lack flavor, and they really do look more dated than the past globe icons, while also being less relevant to Flyertalk. As mentioned, they are also harder to distinguish.

Zorak Oct 25, 2022 8:10 am

The new ones look goofy, like they were drawn by someone's kindergartener :rolleyes:

bocastephen Oct 25, 2022 9:45 am

In the name of all that is holy, the priority should be to stop the annoying backwards auto scroll when using the mobile site.

what is going on with IB??

stimpy Oct 25, 2022 10:23 am

I too am getting the security messages on each page.

And now I cannot upload pictures. Really small pictures. Can they maybe back out the "upgrade" ? Or at least think about it if these issues cannot be fixed.

BTW this is both Chrome and Edge on Windows.

GUWonder Oct 25, 2022 11:24 am

“Performance & security by Cloudflare”. That’s what it says and I can’t but :rolleyes: given the mess with having to identity lions and horse countless times and the site hanging up anyway. Can’t even flip back and forth between desktop and mobile views without this “performance” outcome.

From my vantage point, the problems seemed to have started from something that started to roll on Thursday October 20th. What went live on October 20th with Cloudfare use by FT that wasn’t live on October 19th? In the course of the days since, the site has become less easily usable for some. It does seem to me to be more hostile to iOS device than non-iOS devices, but it’s messed up either way.

Perhaps FT should open up a thread to have people privately post a list of Ray IDs where the posts are masked except to FT/IB admins and the members’ own posts in the thread?

wrp96 Oct 25, 2022 11:28 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 34708091)
“Performance & security by Cloudflare”. That’s what it says and I can’t but :rolleyes: given the mess with having to identity lions and horse countless times and the site hanging up anyway. Can’t even flip back and forth between desktop and mobile views without this “performance” outcome.

I've been getting those since mid-August. I was also constantly getting offers to log into a beta FT site since mid-August, so I wonder if I was just an early adopter of all this mess.:rolleyes:

stimpy Oct 25, 2022 11:31 am

BTW from the Manage Attachments window, when I try to upload a small jpg file, it comes back with "Upload of file failed". No explanation why.

GUWonder Oct 25, 2022 11:32 am


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 34708106)
I've been getting those since mid-August. I was also constantly getting offers to log into a beta FT site since mid-August, so I wonder if I was just an early adopter of all this mess.:rolleyes:

The “performance & security” language isn’t new to this month. But there is stuff that is new to this month that makes the “performance & security by Cloudflare” language way more of a nuisance than it was in prior months.

This “connection is secure” stuff with FT now is over the top in interfering with the user experience. Or at least that’s my view on it.

TomMM Oct 25, 2022 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 34707615)
The new ones look goofy, like they were drawn by someone's kindergartener :rolleyes:

I am guessing they were created by the same people that are creating the metaverse.

WSTC Oct 25, 2022 1:54 pm

My battle with Cloudflare continues. I can't post from the US; I have to reroute my VPN through a Euro country in order to gain entry. This has been going on for over a year. On Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. On both of my laptops and on the desktop. On my iPhone, even. Oy vey.

TomMM Oct 25, 2022 2:03 pm

And the "did you know companies are using AI against botnets...." language displayed.

Dave Noble Oct 25, 2022 4:44 pm

When I click the back bustton to go back to previous page, I am often getting the error

Document Expired

This document is no longer available.

The requested document is not available in Firefox’s cache.

As a security precaution, Firefox does not automatically re-request sensitive documents.
Click Try Again to re-request the document from the website


I am also getting the checking connection message when connecting sometimes, however that does automatically progress after a second ot 2

bocastephen Oct 25, 2022 5:00 pm

Is anyone from FT support or IB planning on stepping into this thread with some feedback or updates?

cblaisd Oct 25, 2022 5:05 pm

Please -- let's have some patience due to some unanticipated exigencies. I'm sure IB staff will comment when possible.

Thank you. (No need to comment on this post)

cblaisd, Co-Moderator, Technical Support forum

GregWTravels Oct 26, 2022 3:04 am


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 34706563)
Can one or both of these be changed? There's very little distinction between them from either a color and/or contrast perspective:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...00ccd10d71.jpg

This is really poor UI design. Since these are supposed to be different, make them different - different color, different highlighting, different content.

...

Maybe going back to unbolding of the read fora?

I came here to figure out why forums weren't shown with unread posts anymore. I hadn't even clocked on to the fact that the two icons were slightly different. Agree, it is too subtle.

ft101 Oct 26, 2022 4:07 am


Originally Posted by GregWTravels (Post 34709594)
I came here to figure out why forums weren't shown with unread posts anymore. I hadn't even clocked on to the fact that the two icons were slightly different. Agree, it is too subtle.

First thing I noticed when I logged on today and took a snip to ask why, but well beaten to it by many others. Ridiculous change to make for this user and it seems I'm not alone.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...67c732f7fb.jpg

kale73 Oct 26, 2022 9:55 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 34706817)
Respectfully... the new smileys are atrocious. They look ridiculous (exaggerated), the colors are obnoxious, and the quality is lower than ever before.

Nobody asked for new smileys (and if they did, they were mistaken).

Please bring back the old ones https://web.archive.org/web/20070701....com/frown.gif

-J.

I have to support this request.

Some of the 'new' emojis are different enough that they express an emotion nuance that is not the same as that conveyed by the 'original' emoji, thus altering the intent and meaning of the post. Either revert or get rid of them altogether. Changing the emojis is similar to changing the actual words a poster used in a post.


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