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JDiver Jul 28, 2020 10:08 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32562263)
If I search using the flyertalk search many times it returns posts without the keyword whatsoever. Sometimes it seems the keyword is in the wiki, I have figured it out, making the returning result by "post" instead of "thread" absolutely useless. When it should be useful in threads that are thousands of pages long.

There a great thread regarding the optimal use of Search / Advanced Search: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/info...ve-thread.html

s0ssos Jul 28, 2020 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32564369)
Can you give me an example so I can take a look?

Sure. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...ate-wait-times
You will get this result, for example, and wonder what relevance it has: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilt...l#post30583127
It has none. It is just that Alaska appears in the wiki.

IBJoel Jul 29, 2020 9:23 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32565928)
Sure. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sear...ate-wait-times
You will get this result, for example, and wonder what relevance it has: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilt...l#post30583127
It has none. It is just that Alaska appears in the wiki.

OK I see. Yeah, this is just a limit to search algorithms every engine has, unfortunately. Doing Advanced Search specifically in the AS forum and having "companion certificate wait times" may yield better results for your purposes.

s0ssos Jul 29, 2020 11:00 am


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32566900)
OK I see. Yeah, this is just a limit to search algorithms every engine has, unfortunately. Doing Advanced Search specifically in the AS forum and having "companion certificate wait times" may yield better results for your purposes.

Ok, thanks. The problem is sometimes you don't know which forum to put the search. For example, award ticket on Japan Airlines could be done in the Alaska subforum, or in the Japan Airlines forum, or maybe also American Airlines or another Japan Airlines partner.

JDiver Jul 29, 2020 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32567166)
Ok, thanks. The problem is sometimes you don't know which forum to put the search. For example, award ticket on Japan Airlines could be done in the Alaska subforum, or in the Japan Airlines forum, or maybe also American Airlines or another Japan Airlines partner.

You can select multiple fora to search when you use Advanced Search. The thread linked to above probably indicates that, but see my illustration. Here, I’m looking in titles only for the search string “status+extension”, meaning status in conjunction with extension in the Air New Zealand, Alitalia and American Airlines fora.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f473079e4.jpeg

s0ssos Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 32567496)
You can select multiple fora to search when you use Advanced Search. The thread linked to above probably indicates that, but see my illustration. Here, I’m looking in titles only for the search string “status+extension”, meaning status in conjunction with extension in the Air New Zealand, Alitalia and American Airlines fora.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f473079e4.jpeg

Thanks. I know how to select multiple forums. It is just that sometimes results pop up in forums you don't expect. And they could be helpful.

s0ssos Aug 11, 2020 2:10 pm

So annoying. Searching for Chicago and a BA thread pops up, with absolutely no mention of Chicago in the posts returned except in the wiki.

IBJoel Aug 12, 2020 11:20 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32597408)
So annoying. Searching for Chicago and a BA thread pops up, with absolutely no mention of Chicago in the posts returned except in the wiki.

This works just like Google. You can specify specific sites/forums you want to search, but if you want to include everything, you'll likely end up with stuff that is irrelevant for your purposes.

s0ssos Aug 12, 2020 11:49 am


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32599525)
This works just like Google. You can specify specific sites/forums you want to search, but if you want to include everything, you'll likely end up with stuff that is irrelevant for your purposes.

Actually it absolutely doesn't work like Google. Google doesn't include all your search terms, it tries to predict what you are looking for. FT search is exactly the opposite. You cannot find what you are looking for in a simple search. You use an advanced search to try to get closer. I haven't seen it yet where Google doesn't actually include the word when you put it in quotes. On FT search you can search "by post" and it'll pop up a result that doesn't actually have the word you searched for in the post. Because it is in the wiki.

IBJoel Aug 12, 2020 11:54 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32599600)
Actually it absolutely doesn't work like Google. Google doesn't include all your search terms, it tries to predict what you are looking for. FT search is exactly the opposite. You cannot find what you are looking for in a simple search. You use an advanced search to try to get closer. I haven't seen it yet where Google doesn't actually include the word when you put it in quotes. On FT search you can search "by post" and it'll pop up a result that doesn't actually have the word you searched for in the post. Because it is in the wiki.

The Wiki is a type of post. That's why it's called a "wikipost". It works on BB Code, not Wiki Markup. It's just publicly editable, compared to an individual's post.

s0ssos Aug 12, 2020 11:59 am


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32599620)
The Wiki is a type of post. That's why it's called a "wikipost". It works on BB Code, not Wiki Markup. It's just publicly editable, compared to an individual's post.

I understand you are saying technically it is hard. But the Wiki is not an individual's post. As in, every single post should not include the wiki. It just doesn't make sense. If so, searching "by post" doesn't work when a thread has a wiki, because you cannot actually find what an individual posts if the terms are in the wiki, the results will return literally every post. It does make sense if you are searching and want the results "by thread".

IBJoel Aug 13, 2020 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 32599631)
I understand you are saying technically it is hard. But the Wiki is not an individual's post. As in, every single post should not include the wiki. It just doesn't make sense. If so, searching "by post" doesn't work when a thread has a wiki, because you cannot actually find what an individual posts if the terms are in the wiki, the results will return literally every post. It does make sense if you are searching and want the results "by thread".

OooooK so this is a "Search Posts" issue, rather than a general search issue. I'll ask tech to take a look.

s0ssos Aug 13, 2020 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 32602020)
OooooK so this is a "Search Posts" issue, rather than a general search issue. I'll ask tech to take a look.

Thanks.

For example, if you search by post and type in "japan travel" it will pop up this result first: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post32602428
The post itself has no "japan" in it, but the wiki does.

Now, once in the thread, if you search in the thread for Japan it won't pop up every post because it doesn't search the wiki anymore.


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