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dergon darkhelm Aug 24, 2017 10:11 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 28723968)
Friday, most likely. A tweak was performed that broke search, but it was reversed Friday afternoon. We had a few hours without any search at all.

But if you're having current problems like that, I'd suspect cache issues.

IBobi may give us some other ideas when he's back at work ~9:00 am Wednesday Pacific time.

This has been ongoing.


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Advanced Search OMNI/PR thread titles, results as titles only, search term russia+sanctions

Results: Exxon seeks waiver from Russia Sanctions (link)
That is not the thread to which I am referring.



Trying to find a thread if you can't search it by title is very challenging. - I will try to find "Russia Sanctions" in /PR to prove it exists... but it will be a page by page ctl+F over months of threads, potential 50+ pages of thread titles.

dergon darkhelm Aug 24, 2017 10:12 am

boom -- here it is --- 7th page of PR

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html


title "Russia Sanctions"


search of titles using the word Russia does not bring this up for me.

Kagehitokiri Aug 24, 2017 12:49 pm

so adding quotes to each word helps, but doesnt always work, im still getting fails

omni is impossible because one cannot use google

i might try playing around with thread you just found dergon darkhelm, nice effort

is it possible there is some kind of index split or something? i dont know this stuff

IBobi Aug 24, 2017 2:42 pm

Tech is looking into search issues
 
Hi all! I have asked our techs to look into search to see what's up. Will update if they find/change anything!

Paul

Kagehitokiri Aug 24, 2017 7:20 pm

thanks! i need to do more testing, but this is clear example >


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 28730551)
now this is interesting >
oneworld malaysia = doesnt work
"oneworld" "malaysia" = works

and that reflects a change, as in past i only put words like "the" in quotes, as FT literally tells you such words are excluded because they are too common

JDiver Aug 25, 2017 12:03 am


Originally Posted by dergon darkhelm (Post 28730639)
boom -- here it is --- 7th page of PR

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html


title "Russia Sanctions"


search of titles using the word Russia does not bring this up for me.

Advanced search, search thread titles, results as threads, OMNI/PR:

Search terms "russia" - many, many threads

Search terms russia+sanctions

Reveals http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html

Does NOT reveal http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html

Search terms "russia"+sanctions

Reveals http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html

Does NOT reveal http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni-...sanctions.html

That's a glitch for sure.

Now, as to using quotation marks to force the search:

It's true these need to be used for search terms of three or fewer characters, or very common terms.

Common terms do not have to be those such as "the"; they extend to words like choice or choices and others.

I don't know if "common terms" are determined by human intervention, or automatically by software algorithms counting word usage.

Kagehitokiri Aug 25, 2017 9:38 am

that is what we noticed. re quotes, this >

Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 28730551)
oneworld malaysia = doesnt work
"oneworld" "malaysia" = works


dergon darkhelm Aug 26, 2017 6:25 am

Thanks for the effort.

(Really was just looking for the psychological support of "You're not crazy or stupid. It's actually the search engine." :) )

florens Aug 28, 2017 3:16 am

Something I have brought to attention in the past still seems not to be resolved.

When I select a subforum, in which I want the search to happen, I still have to deselect manually "search all open forums" every time.

It would be much easier if the "search all open forums" would be deselected automatically, whenever a specific forum is selected.

IBJoel Aug 28, 2017 1:56 pm

Tech is looking into it. I am not search if it is related to recent "fixing up" the search that was done.

IBJoel Aug 29, 2017 12:25 pm

RE: Search- it will be handled in the next 24 hours. I spoke with tech and they believe they know the fix, it's just time-consuming.

SkiAdcock Aug 29, 2017 2:18 pm

FT search has gotten so bad that it's to the point where I'm thinking I shouldn't even bother with it anymore.

I'll do a search on a thread that I know exists & nada, buptkus, comes up (but I truly appreciate a Rome Italy thread coming up first in search results when I search on Aruba in the Marriott forum, for example :rolleyes:). Do Aruba+Marriott+Flyertalk search on Google & the first thread/link that pops up on Google is the one I'm looking for that did not come up w/ FT search.

FT search has sucked for a long time, but it's been getting worse. I could fill up this thread w/ examples where I'll do a particular search, including the exact title of the thread, & get about multiple threads listed that areunrelated to what I searched for, or I get nothing at all w/ the appropriate no results found message, but again do the search on Google & the exact thread (that does exist) pops up on Google but didn't on FT.

Cheers.

JDiver Aug 29, 2017 4:48 pm

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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 28751976)
FT search has gotten so bad that it's to the point where I'm thinking I shouldn't even bother with it anymore.

I'll do a search on a thread that I know exists & nada, buptkus, comes up (but I truly appreciate a Rome Italy thread coming up first in search results when I search on Aruba in the Marriott forum, for example :rolleyes:). Do Aruba+Marriott+Flyertalk search on Google & the first thread/link that pops up on Google is the one I'm looking for that did not come up w/ FT search.

FT search has sucked for a long time, but it's been getting worse. I could fill up this thread w/ examples where I'll do a particular search, including the exact title of the thread, & get about multiple threads listed that areunrelated to what I searched for, or I get nothing at all w/ the appropriate no results found message, but again do the search on Google & the exact thread (that does exist) pops up on Google but didn't on FT.

Cheers.

I'm puzzled we have such varied experiences with search, so:

Advanced Search, Marriott | Rewards forum. Search thread titles, return as threads, search term aruba. No Rome, but

Kagehitokiri Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm

SkiAdcock, did you notice a sudden recent change?

im not in bigger forums here, but few problems until recently, then dead


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 28751530)
they believe they know the fix, it's just time-consuming.

sorry! but great to hear they identified something to fix, and how to fix it! thanks all!

SkiAdcock Sep 8, 2017 8:21 am


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 28752999)
SkiAdcock, did you notice a sudden recent change?

Nope. I've gotten to the point where I'll do a search & if it doesn't show up in FT search I just immediately go to google, use the same search parameters+Flyertalk & it pops up immediately. I should note I've done this using exact property names (in the Marriott forum, for example) & property thread doesn't pop up on FT, but does on google. Yesterday I did a # of searches, using specifics & also on threads I myself created & knew the thread title & only a couple came up on FT - the rest required me going to Google to find them. nsx is the one who gave me the idea of doing the google search when FT search comes up w/ buptkus.

Cheers.


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