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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 9:39 pm
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New post editor announcement, issues, bugs, etc.

re: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/techn...lable-766.html

I don't personally object to trying something new, but...

In the near future, we will automatically opt all users in to the new interface, so this is a good time to start taking advantage of the new editor.
... if I am correctly interpreting what this sentence intends to convey, then that's not what "opt in" means.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 9:46 pm
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No additional functionality, and half the performance. Must be taking lessons from Microsoft.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
No additional functionality, and half the performance. Must be taking lessons from Microsoft.
and pushing the "upgrade" on people
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
No additional functionality
Correction - greatly reduced functionality. So far, I see

  • No font changes (either face or size).
  • No indentation control.

Originally Posted by Zorak
and pushing the "upgrade" on people
It it was at least tested, that would be OK. But replacing something that works and is fast with something that's quite the opposite is just ludicrous.
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 8:07 am
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Dear IB:

You recently did a poll asking FTers what they would like to see in FT - things like mobile, better search, like button, etc.

Could you please point out where people said they wanted a post editor w/ less functionality? Please - seriously, what # was it on the list? Honest to goodness, if you're going to 'enhance' stuff (you're beginning to remind me of the airlines), couldn't you at least test it w/ perhaps a focus group of FTers to get input - before you decide to force it upon everyone?

BTW - I agree. Making this feature standard for all users is NOT 'opting in'.

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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Correction - greatly reduced functionality. So far, I see
  • No font changes (either face or size).
  • No indentation control.
I liked using indent where appropriate.

I'm also not finding the PHP or CODE tags, which were useful for pasting airline system content in, like fare displays, availability, etc

Code:
Looks like I can still type the CODE tags though.
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 4:17 pm
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Correction:
  • New CKEditor has been in vBulletin for more than a year
  • It is a MyFlyerTalk individual opt-in option to activate, meaning that a user has to go in and change their settings, it's not automatically turned on for anyone.
  • The new editor is more in line with 2016 editor standards, is a full WYSIWYG and comes with an AUTO-SAVE, which is definitely a nice to have feature.
  • Eventually, instead of automatically setting the old editor as the default for brand new members, we will default them to the new editor - because most new users don't know how to format correctly with bbcode and are expecting certain base-level functionality - like CNTRL+B to Bold.

This isn't as scary as it sounds, nor are the old editors ever going away. This is an option available to those who want a more modern editor. If they love the current old format editor - great, its still available.
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by IBxAnders
This isn't as scary as it sounds, nor are the old editors ever going away.
^ thanks for the clarification!
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by IBxAnders
Correction:
  • New CKEditor has been in vBulletin for more than a year
  • It is a MyFlyerTalk individual opt-in option to activate, meaning that a user has to go in and change their settings, it's not automatically turned on for anyone.
  • The new editor is more in line with 2016 editor standards, is a full WYSIWYG and comes with an AUTO-SAVE, which is definitely a nice to have feature.
  • Eventually, instead of automatically setting the old editor as the default for brand new members, we will default them to the new editor - because most new users don't know how to format correctly with bbcode and are expecting certain base-level functionality - like CNTRL+B to Bold.

This isn't as scary as it sounds, nor are the old editors ever going away. This is an option available to those who want a more modern editor. If they love the current old format editor - great, its still available.
That's nice in theory, but you haven't addressed the shortcomings that were mentioned above - which is one reason to avoid auto-defaulting new members until you've fixed them.

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Old Sep 18, 2016 | 12:45 pm
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FYI, the new editor isn't working in Safari, on OS X 10.11.6 - just shows a blank space.
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Old Sep 20, 2016 | 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by IBxAnders
  • Eventually, instead of automatically setting the old editor as the default for brand new members, we will default them to the new editor - because most new users don't know how to format correctly with bbcode and are expecting certain base-level functionality - like CNTRL+B to Bold.
    The one actual, real improvement I see in the new editor is a strikethrough button. Because strikethrough is so often used here at FT.
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    Old Oct 3, 2016 | 8:38 am
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    New editor

    I don't mind the new editor, with one major exception. When I post something, the page does not auto-advance to MY POST. That will probably be the thing that sees me turning it off, till that's fixed.

    Safari 10.0 on macOS 10.12.
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    Old Oct 3, 2016 | 8:42 pm
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    New editor complaint: The near-full screen size of the popup when using smilies (wow, that term is a blast from the past) is really annoying. Haven't tried it in a mobile browser to see if the experience is any better/worse.

    Also, the choice of emoji there is extremely limited. You should look to enhance with an updated set. That may be something that drives people to the new editor.

    Though why you roll out a "new" editor with such limited capability is beyond me. There are literally dozens of things that the membership has asked for (based on your own recent survey). Really odd prioritization choices from IB management.
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    Old Oct 4, 2016 | 2:47 am
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    Bug?
    When using the new post editor, once you hit "Post" there is hickup. The post editor reloads the post but removes all wysiwyg. Then there is a delay (one or a few seconds) and during this time it looks like the editor is still active and that the "Post" didn't work. Then the editor is removed and the thread is reloaded.
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    Old Oct 4, 2016 | 12:29 pm
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    Originally Posted by RichMSN
    I don't mind the new editor, with one major exception. When I post something, the page does not auto-advance to MY POST. That will probably be the thing that sees me turning it off, till that's fixed.

    Safari 10.0 on macOS 10.12.
    Thanks for the input, Rich. I've reported this to tech.
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