Scroll to the bottom and click VIEW MOBILE SITE.

This sucks. My mobile use of ft will drop dramatically. The mobile web version is terrible with ads all over the place. The app was clean and straight forward. This is a 5 year web development step backwards.

@Bobi, are you going to leave the ads between comments? Not sure who your UX person is, but big fail. What's your ROI on folks leaving the site vs. the rev you get on accidentally clicking on an ad between comments to get your revenue?

Thanks for looking into this.

I too have a os10 BlackBerry now, but much prefer the other page.

Agreed here too ... very distracting. :td:

IMO it's unnecessarily large and bold. Also not very clear what the visual message is about, unless you 'hover' over it.

I would pay as well. I don't use this site to find the cheapest ticket. I use it for my amusement, and am ready to pay.

A friend from Ft provided me with a link, we were talking on FB messenger. I logged in, it was confusing, full of adds and for me, it was overwhelming. Then I tried from my phone browser, couldn't log in. So anytime I wanted to log in (using my phone) I have to go to THAT particular message... a big hassle and for what to read omni... Am not going to bother. Maybe they are trying to weed out some posters. @:-)

Is this another Ft category? How about if it becomes democratic and treat everyone the same? @:-)

Just go to m.flyertalk.com

Admins can switch off ads for certain members (only on the desktop version). Switching off ads for all wouldn't make sense as this would stop IBs revenue/income from the site. @:-)

AFAIR IB couldn't find a way to charge members for an ads free version of FT.

It doesn't work, it only works through my friend's link. And anyway, when I did it through that it was full of ads and I couldn't tell where something started and where another ended.

Frankly from a site I use as entertainment, I don't need the hassle. So for now am sticking to my lap top unless you guys decide to bring back the app. And now I can catch up on my reading... yes through add-less kindle.

I wouldn't pay for an ad-free version.

As it is now, FT makes money (by ads, presumably) due to the content provided--for free!---by its posters.

Monetizing the free content that I give you only to then turn around and make the process of giving you free content more visually distracting---but then to offer a "cleaner" look at an additional cost, is simply too much for me to accept.

There are other free websites out there that are easier to use and more enjoyable to read than this one, and I suspect that they will be happy to accept my free content. I see no reason why I need to stick around with this one...

As an aside, it isn't just this anymore either.

I often open up threads using tabs, using Explorer.

Since the upgrade, about 15% of the time a tab opens up with simply the heading "blank page." And then every tabbed page gets stuck and stalls, and eventually I have to shut Explorer down.

Plus the additional ads are seemingly causing pages to load slowly, or--at the very least--cause scrolling down the page to stop and stall.

So now your website isn't just visually ugly, it is also operationally deficient.

heck, they (IB) can't support an FT ap
no way can they find a way to charge members for a free version LOL

Not sure what has been done or why, but this 'new' website is rubbish! :mad::mad::mad:

Please fix it so that it looks like the old one did last week!!!!!!!

I have waited a couple of days to comment, but this new iteration still has some UX problems.

If I use IE (Windows 10), every single view page now has an ad on it. I don't mean every single thread, I mean every time I press the "PgDn" key, FT serves up an ad that takes up about 20-30% of the screen. Sometimes a new ad, sometimes the same ad over and over again, and sometimes as a bonus, the identical ad will be displayed on the right hand margin of the now-shrunk FT page. The AOL that came on CDs in the mail in 1995 literally had fewer and less intrusive ads than this version.

Furthermore, some tabs fail to load anything at all in IE. I only use IE to read FT, as this has been the doctrinaire way to use FT since Randy sold it, but for the last few days reading FT on IE is an exercise in frustration.

So if I switch over to Chrome, I get several ads per thread, which is less than an ad every single screen view, but still annoying. And sometimes the page size is altered, with the FT content squeezed onto the right or the left with an ad beside it, and on one memorable occasion, the FT content was fully centered, as if e.e. cummings was the new administrator. Furthermore, some threads or fora barf on the types of ads (Flash, maybe?) that FT tries to serve up and thus fail to load at all.

So if I switch over to the Chrome with ad-blok, the ads are no longer consuming the pages or dropping the site, but now the page display has an extra 20% width of empty white space on the right hand side. Still, this is infinitely better than IE or Chrome without ad-blok, so IB might want to rectify the site before more folks switch to this cleaner view.

So if I switch to a mobile version of Chrome, well, you know the story already from previous posters above.

Wilbur, could you post screenshots of the differences in ad placement you're seeing in Chrome vs IE (or are you using Edge on Windows 10?).

Are you seeing the mobile site and thinking it has replaced the full site?

Post a screen shot please so we can know what you are seeing. The full FT site is barely changed.

Windows 10 is very problematic. Only a few users, and if you combine it with IE rather than Edge (which it comes with), moreso. There will only be so much we can do for you.

First, again, I recommend just switching browsers to Chrome or Firefox.

From tech, here are some other steps you can take:

1. If a user has any 3rd party plugins installed in their browser, that can sometimes cause problems. To test this, turn off all the plugins and see if the problem still occurs. If yes, then the plugins are not the problem. If no, then one or more of the plugins is probably the problem (turn them back on one at a time to identify the culprit)
2. Please confirm what browser(s) is being used on Windows 10. When they say IE, do they really mean Edge? Or did they actually install an old version of IE?
3. Are there any other non-standard configuration changes that they made on their browser. If yes, try turning them off like #1 above.
4. Provide any specific page URLs that have the problem (if problem does not occur for all pages)

I'm running Windows 7 Enterprise, and using Internet Explorer 11.

Well, you could revert to how FT looked and worked prior to running the March 28, 2016, software upgrade.....

Amen.

1) The changes are not "small," but have affected a great many things.

2) I find it amazing that you weren't aware of all the changes that would take place when the "up"grade was applied. On any software on which I'm offered an upgrade, I always read the complete list of changes to determine whether it's something I want to do. If there was not such list given to you before applying this "up"grade, why would you not demand such?

Bottom line: the site worked fine before this disastrous "up"grade, the changes are major not minor, there are numerous bugs, ad placement is terribly intrusive.

Please consider rolling back.

Sadly, I have to agree in part.

I can understand why "The Organisation" chose to clutter the pages with advertisements - money. :td:
As to the new "Report" button, I have no idea why that was deemed a necessary 'high-voltage' visual distraction. :td:

Having got that off my chest, it's their train-set, and they can lay out the tracks as they choose. Will it stop me using FT? Of course not - it's a literally priceless resource, thanks to the population here. I would just happily pay for an ad-free version but I can understand why that might be too difficult to apply.

Getting back to the Thread Title ... I have no "Technical Issues" (iMac/Safari, iPad/Safari) - but then I don't use the FT-Lite version on mini-devices. YMMV.

There is zero chance we are rolling back. Sorry guys.

There have indeed been a number of issues, but that doesn't mean we just stop innovating. We fix the issues and move forward. This update was an absolute necessity due to some google requirements. Going back is not an option.

We apologize for the inconvenience this caused, and we spent a great deal of time QAing the software prior to going live. But we'll address the issues and move forward, onward and upward!

Guys, this software combo seems to be a real edge case, so there is just not much more we can do right now.

Using a configuration that's as close as we can get to yours, our techs have not been able to replicate your issues.

This is not to say that the issue doesn't exist -- if you google "internet explorer blank tabs issue" you will see that this is IE-related and has been happening to people for years (some suggestions that it is related to having used Norton AV as well...).

I doubt there is much more we can do at this time, other than to again recommend you change browsers to Chrome or Firefox.

Am I the only 1 with this "error"? really annoying, scrolling and scrolling only to get to the point I finished. Should not been that hard to fix it as it worked before..

IBJoel attached are the requested screen prints. I am using Firefox.

"View FIRST unread" button no longer functions on desktop site. Just takes you to top of last page.

Yup :td: :mad:

Maybe I'm just denser today than usual, but do you mean "view first unread"? I know about last-page and last-post buttons/links, but nothing fitting the description above.

And FTR, the VFU button (as displayed in my list of subscribed threads with new posts) is working fine for me on the desktop.

Yes-it's "first unread" but it's working sporadically for me on various threads-sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't

Same here on my ipad. I thought it was just me. Sometimes it takes me to my actualy first unread post, sometimes to the top of the last page in the thread, even though I have already read those posts. Ipad using Safari, desktop version.

Sorry, meant first unread.

It also works sporadically for me. It worked fine for me in this thread and a thread I opened in the UA forum. But no forums on OMNI/PR.

How do I pull up my forum subscriptions on the new mobile website? I had been using the Wiforums WAP format but that appears to be gone now?

Sporadic is how I would describe it for me too. Sometimes it works, sometimes I end up at the top of the last page, on a few threads it takes me to the very first post. I've seen it on both my Ipad and on my desktop using Chrome.

Forum subscriptions are not yet a part of the mobile skin, but are something we are working on for a future iteration.

It looks like the "CLOSED" button is not displaying consistently in the desktop interface for all closed threads. For example, I don't see it on these:The difference seems to be how long ago the thread was closed, with the break point around 4.5 years ago.

Thank you, working on this.

I seem to have an issue quoting a post that was moved from its original thread to an existing thread. Below the message box it says "You have selected 1 post that is not part of this thread. Quote this post as well, or deselect this post.", and when I go to post my reply, my reply doesn't show up anywhere and the moved thread will get bumped up to the top of the page.

Post a link to the post you're referring to so I can try it myself.

The post linked as "original thread" is the post that was moved into the "existing thread"


original thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26442145-post9.html
existing thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ng-into-e.html

Works fine for me

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26442476-post12.html

If you clear your cache and cookies, and still have this issue, let us know what your device type and browser are, and if mobile are you using the skin or the full site.