How about starting a United-II forum until the problems are fixed?

Eventually, the threads could be moved back into the original United forum at your leisure after we're sure all the problems are fixed?

-David

David,

I have a better idea. Why don't we just move to one of those lightly used airline forums?

Dan

You guys are already 12 hours late. They started it up already on the Tarom Romanian Airlines board.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum47/HTML/000002.html

I know .. its frustrating, though I liked the reference and the posts in the Tarom thread

Here's another alternate suggestion.

Make the existing UA forum read/only and rename it to United Archive when InfoPop fixes the current problems. Only moderators and staff should have write access here for archiving threads and possible getting rid of junk threads that have no archival value. I've seen other boards that do this regularly. (We will of course, argue about what constitutes archival value and what doesn't, but we can let the FT-board handle that issue.)

Meanwhile, create a new permanent UA forum seeded with a thread explaining what's going on. This should be done now, if that's possible. It still leaves all options open for later.

You can always make the decision later (if and when InfoPop ever solves their problems or you decide to dump InfoPop and go with somebody with software that can actually handle the FT loads without failure and without crashing) to merge the two back into a single forum.

-David


[This message has been edited by LIH Prem (edited 08-27-2001).]

It may be UBB, or maybe not. I don't know.

What I do know is that there are other UBB sites with comparable or higher volume and they don't have these problems. I'm happy to speculate the problem is closer to the hardware side of the equation.

check out http://www.avscience.com or http://www.brighthand.com for some busy UBB sites.

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Party in the Metroplex -- September 21-23, 2001

Good evening everyone.

Hmmmm....some intriguing suggestions here. I'll get with Randy about them and see what he says.

In the mean time I thought I'd let you all know that I've been in talks with InfoPop for a fair amount of the day and we are discussing our options.

There are definitely a number of issues to deal with and I'm uncertain at this point in time about how we are going to proceed.

After my talk with InfoPop we determined that yes, there are a number of hardware issues that need to be addressed. This is a necessity because UBB was never intended for the kind of scalability that we are needing at the moment. There are a number of temporary things that we can do to solve some of the problems but the long term solution is going to need to be more drastic. This is due in part to the hardware and in part due to the ineffeciency of the language that UBB is written in...as well as the data structure.

The United forum will be down for one more day ( hopefully no longer ) and the American forum is also under duress. I intend to shut it down this evening to see if I can implement a temporary fix.

As usual, thank you all very much for your time and patience and for your continual feedback.

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bollar - neat sites, thanks! There is a whole other world out there - none of it made much sense to me, but that is what those guys probably think about FT.

You are right the first site says their statistics since 1999 are:

Members: 19620 | Active Topics: 59958 | Active Posts: 464971

That looks similar to FT. Are they pretty much free of techno problems in your experience over there?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">You are right the first site says their statistics since 1999 are:

Members: 19620 | Active Topics: 59958 | Active Posts: 464971

That looks similar to FT. Are they pretty much free of techno problems in your experience over there?

The only comments I ever heard from the administrators was they kept needing to upgrade the server.... Eventually AVScicence moved one forum to http://www.tivocommunity.com and run it on a separate server. That's one year old or so and is: Members: 19634 | Active Topics: 18361 | Active Posts: 149572

I also notice that BrightHand no longer uses UBB....

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Party in the Metroplex -- September 21-23, 2001

Would be much better to set us a UA II forum then go to Tarom - 90% of users (including all new users) wouldn't know to look for UA in Tarom.

We should merge with the US Airways board

Perhaps a hostile takeover, where we just go and start posting over there. Let's see the Justice Department try to stop that.

Nor do the USAir folks have a moderator to save them.

Stay Away from us US folks! Although we may be dimunitive in numbers compared to the UA folks, we can sure put up a fight in a hostile takeover!

The problems on the UA board are another reason to be happy the US merger failed -- imagine how overburdened the UA board would be with the US posts added . . .

How about a United-II airline?

Let's get the UnitedII forum started first.