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amejr999 Nov 13, 2014 7:40 pm

Consolidated "Problems Accessing FlyerTalk When Using A VPN" thread
 
I started using a VPN on my personal PC and phone a few weeks ago. Everything works fine except for FT; the site doesn't load when I am routing through the VPN. It works fine when I don't use the VPN, but it's annoying to have to disconnect and reconnect. Any suggestions? Might FT be blocking my IP address? Thanks.

iadp Nov 15, 2014 5:26 am

Is this a work VPN or a personal one? I use Private Internet Access and have noticed some of their Euro headends are/were blocked. All my other VPNs (SSL or IPSEC) work just fine.

amejr999 Nov 15, 2014 7:53 am

Yep, it's Private Internet Access. I'm using the Florida one so I can try switching, perhaps.

iadp Nov 15, 2014 11:22 am

Ah cool, try the Netherlands headend. That one works for me and it has lots of bandwidth.

SwisherTown Dec 24, 2014 12:31 am

IP Blocking and VPN Access Blocked Issues (consolidated)
 
I'm using VPNs to log into to FlyerTalk. Certain ones always timeout. Are particular IPs being blocked?

AllieKat Dec 26, 2014 3:05 am


Originally Posted by SwisherTown (Post 24045480)
I'm using VPNs to log into to FlyerTalk. Certain ones always timeout. Are particular IPs being blocked?

Yup, FlyerTalk very obviously blocks some IPs belonging to data centres where VPN servers are hosted.

aBroadAbroad Dec 26, 2014 10:02 am

Afaik, IB does not unilaterally block any vpn IPs, and IP blocking is used pretty much as a last resort. That said, if the the IP(s) in question really have been blocked, it's possible it was done in error while dealing with a spam attack or other disciplinary action.

The best course of action is to send a PM to the IB techs, giving the specific IP or IP range that appears to be having access difficulty. If there is an inappropriate block in place, it would be good to get the issue corrected so others don't encounter the same problem.

AllieKat Dec 27, 2014 10:15 am


Originally Posted by aBroadAbroad (Post 24054873)
Afaik, IB does not unilaterally block any vpn IPs, and IP blocking is used pretty much as a last resort. That said, if the the IP(s) in question really have been blocked, it's possible it was done in error while dealing with a spam attack or other disciplinary action.

The best course of action is to send a PM to the IB techs, giving the specific IP or IP range that appears to be having access difficulty. If there is an inappropriate block in place, it would be good to get the issue corrected so others don't encounter the same problem.

Will do when I get home and can test my VPN provider's different endpoints. I know you block a lot of VPN IPs in the Netherlands, presumably due to spam coming from the same data centres.

sthubbar Feb 12, 2015 1:16 am

VPN access to FT blocked
 
I am unable to access Flyertalk.com through Astrill OpenWeb VPN.

This is quite frustrating as direct access to FT form mainland China is sloooow.

How can access from a VPN be restored?

fischi Feb 12, 2015 2:09 am

try switching VPN servers
 
I was having a similar problem last week, but found that by switching servers, I could access FT. Hope that helps.

sthubbar Feb 12, 2015 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by fischi (Post 24336927)
I was having a similar problem last week, but found that by switching servers, I could access FT. Hope that helps.

fischi,

I've also heard that it is possible to contact some admins here to remove the block. Any idea who to contact?

fischi Feb 12, 2015 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by sthubbar (Post 24340251)
fischi,

I've also heard that it is possible to contact some admins here to remove the block. Any idea who to contact?

Nope. Sorry. But each forum
Has a moderator - you could start with this forum.

JDiver Feb 13, 2015 10:58 am

I'll point this query out to Admin.

JDiver
Senior Moderator

IBobi Feb 13, 2015 12:47 pm

Looking into this guys.

JDiver Feb 13, 2015 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 24346408)
Looking into this guys.

Thanks!

IBobi Feb 17, 2015 3:33 pm

Please provide the IP address of your computer when using the VPN service.

Also, be advised that if this is an anonymizing service like Tor, you will not be able to access FT as that is considered a security risk.

FFlash Feb 19, 2015 12:05 am

Not to hijack OP here but thought my question would fit well with the title (it is a silly one, but my IT knowledge is close to zero):

Can my employer track and block me using FT? Just for the reason that they think it is not appropriate to surf during work hours (even if I sometimes come here during work hours, but mostly off-work)

I sometimes think about this as I am quite frequent here these days and I am almost always connected through my company's VPN even when not during work hours.

fischi Feb 19, 2015 5:15 am


Originally Posted by FFlash (Post 24376948)
Not to hijack OP here but thought my question would fit well with the title (it is a silly one, but my IT knowledge is close to zero):

Can my employer track and block me using FT? Just for the reason that they think it is not appropriate to surf during work hours (even if I sometimes come here during work hours, but mostly off-work)

I sometimes think about this as I am quite frequent here these days and I am almost always connected through my company's VPN even when not during work hours.

Yes, your employer can track your web usage and block specific sites. Whether your employer actually does that or not is another question.

kulflyer Mar 3, 2015 7:36 pm

The Toronto CA headend is blocked as well.

iadp Mar 8, 2015 1:34 am

IP Blocking and VPN Access to FT Blocked Issues (consolidated)
 
Toronto is working now from source IP

This being FT, perhaps we should be using IATA codes for VPNs instead of city names :)

JDiver Mar 8, 2015 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by iadp (Post 24472936)
Toronto is working now from source IP

This being FT, perhaps we should be using IATA codes for VPNs instead of city names :)

IP addie deleted - Administrators can see what was deleted. :)

JDiver
Senior Moderator

kulflyer Mar 9, 2015 7:59 pm

Just tried on Toronto and North York. Still blocked. I resorted to running a convoluted proxy system on my network. The proxy runs on my VMware hosts that has direct internet access. I set my laptop to go over VPN for everything except web browsing. The browser talks to the VM that runs a Squid proxy to handle port 80 and 443 traffic. The hoops we jump through to get to FT :D

mster Aug 31, 2015 4:19 am

Seeing similar issues with other VPN providers (Astrill, etc). Switching servers usually does the trick, but it's odd to only have this problem with FT and not any other boards :confused:

Lussac Apr 26, 2016 5:00 am

Hi, I've just started to HMA! VPN with a UK ip address and cannot access Flyertalk through it. The ip addresses that I've tried so far are as follows:

78.129.171.52
95.154.230.168
212.38.170.108
37.9.57.57

Thanks.

amejr999 Oct 29, 2016 1:45 pm

FT blocked on VPN?
 
I use Private Internet Access to browse online for privacy reasons. FT has not been loading for the past few days. Is FT blocking these IP addresses? Can they be unblocked?

airsurfer Oct 29, 2016 1:54 pm

Here as well when using an EU access point, but not when using an AU VIC access point. Hong Kong does also work.
Try another access point.

oliver2002 Oct 31, 2016 4:34 am

A lot of spammers use the common VPN proxies to sign up so these are blocked on FT.

84fiero Nov 6, 2016 12:23 pm

I also use PIA and many of its access points are blocked here. Some are not, but I'd say a majority of the ones I try are blocked. I understand spammers use VPNs but so do millions of legitimate people nowadays. It's kind of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Other than Bank of America (occasionally) and Ticketmaster (always), I have zero issues with PIA VPNs being blocked on any other site - and I have it on 3 computers in our house. So somehow most other websites out there seem to manage without blocking one of the most widely used VPN services - wondering why FT can't do the same.

oliver2002 Nov 6, 2016 2:28 pm

You also have a significant section creating dupes for sock puppetry using VPN clients. The spam is the bigger issue. You have 120 or so posts created all across FT in minutes. If its persistent, the ip is simply blocked as mods are volonteers who are not required to monitor FT 24/7...��

84fiero Nov 10, 2016 3:43 pm

Again, though, FT isn't the only site subject to such mischief, yet no other sites I use regularly - including similar message boards/forums (also relying on volunteers) have such widespread VPN blocking. These are more widely known and busier forums than FT so I'd guess they would be similar targets, if not more so. Yet FT is the only site where I now have to turn off the VPN to access, nearly 100% of the time lately.

WIRunner Nov 12, 2016 9:09 pm

Glad I'm not the only one having this problem. Seems a bit excessive, a captcha for creating an account and posting for the first month or two seems like a better solution.

airsurfer Nov 13, 2016 7:25 am


Originally Posted by WIRunner (Post 27472914)
Glad I'm not the only one having this problem. Seems a bit excessive, a captcha for creating an account and posting for the first month or two seems like a better solution.

Spammers won't mind this, but a better way is
- limited possibilities (e.g. no images, no PM to others than admins) when less than 10 posts
- when someone really spams, not only the message is deleted but after a single warning the account is blocked.

oliver2002 Nov 13, 2016 8:11 am


Originally Posted by airsurfer (Post 27473976)
Spammers won't mind this, but a better way is
- limited possibilities (e.g. no images, no PM to others than admins) when less than 10 posts
- when someone really spams, not only the message is deleted but after a single warning the account is blocked.

That is already in place... ;)

GUWonder Nov 23, 2016 8:20 am

Other VPNs may work just fine.

joshwex90 Nov 23, 2016 8:29 am

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Loren Pechtel Nov 28, 2016 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by WIRunner (Post 27472914)
Glad I'm not the only one having this problem. Seems a bit excessive, a captcha for creating an account and posting for the first month or two seems like a better solution.

Yeah. Blocking VPNs from signup is different than blocking VPNs for general use. This is a forum of travelers, sometimes we need to use VPNs!

WIRunner Nov 28, 2016 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 27538898)
Yeah. Blocking VPNs from signup is different than blocking VPNs for general use. This is a forum of travelers, sometimes we need to use VPNs!

If I'm on wifi and not at home, I'm logged into a VPN.

ffsim Nov 29, 2016 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 27538898)
Yeah. Blocking VPNs from signup is different than blocking VPNs for general use. This is a forum of travelers, sometimes we need to use VPNs!


Originally Posted by WIRunner (Post 27539181)
If I'm on wifi and not at home, I'm logged into a VPN.

Ditto for me. There's got to be a better way than to throw the baby out with the bathwater as mentioned upthread.

ekozie Apr 8, 2017 8:57 am

Any update from mods or anyone else? FT refuses to load on multiple US servers on my VPN service, and is the only site that I need to turn off my VPN to use. Quite frustrating.

WIRunner Apr 8, 2017 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by ekozie (Post 28146718)
Any update from mods or anyone else? FT refuses to load on multiple US servers on my VPN service, and is the only site that I need to turn off my VPN to use. Quite frustrating.

I contacted PIA, they said that it is blocked on many of their servers, could only offer the suggestion of hop around until I found one where I connected. They could do nothing on their end.


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