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GUIDE: TAP Air Portugal Airbus A321LR (A321neo LR) long haul, flat bed J

Old Oct 16, 17, 9:22 am
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GUIDE: TAP Air Portugal Airbus A321LR (A321neo LR) long haul, flat bed J

TAP Air Portugal Airbus A321LR
Total in fleet Oct 2019: 3 (CS-TXA, -B, -C) Aircraft on order: 9.

C16, E+48, Y107 (Total 171)


This narrowbody single aisle aircraft is used on “thin” long haul routes, including transatlantic. Free WiFi is provided for messaging and text, packages also available. Power, AVOD.

Executive Class: Layout is staggered Executive class seat rows 2 - 2 and 1 x 1 with 56,64 cm / 22.3” width and 112 cm / 44” pitch, full lie flat seats

Economy Extra / Eco Premium / E+: 3 x 3 in 45,72 cm / 18” wide, 81,28 cm - 83,82 cm / 32-33” pitch

Economy: 3 x 3 in 45,72 cm / 18” wide and 78,74 cm / 31” pitch.

*Key: C = Executive (Business) seats; E+ = Economy Extra seats; Y = Economy seat

Link to SeatGuru A321LR seat chart

A321LR:

Length: 44,51 m
Wingspan: 35,80 m. Uses “Sharklets” wingtip devices
Height: 11,76 m
Wing surface area: 122,40 m2
Cruise speed: 900 km/h
Cruise altitude: 11,900 m
Fuel capacity: 32,940 l (A321neo has 23,700+ l; LR has three auxiliary center tanks for greater fuel capacity)
Maximum range: 7,400 km / 4,000 nm

Link to TAP Portugal Receives First Airbus A321LR by Daniel Sander, Airways Magazine

Link to TAP Air Portugal Receives First Airbus A321LR, by Aaron Hilsz-Lothian, Sam Chui, 7 Apr 2019

Link to TAP Air Portugal Debuts A321LR On Transatlantic Flights, by Ben, OMAT, 15 Jan 2019

Link to TAP Air Portugal’s Snazzy New A321LR Business Class, by Ben, OMAT, 1 Dec 2018

Link to TAP Air Portugal Eyes Airbus A321LR Flights To Brazil, by Nick John Whittle, Simple Flying, 8 Jul 2019

Sources: TAP, Wikipedia, SeatGuru, One Mile at a Time, Sam Chui, Simple Flying
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Old Jul 1, 19, 10:06 am
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TP A321 Neo Biz Seats Couple

Good day taking TP Flight: 232 IAD -> LIS in business class with the Mrs. Can someone suggest the best seats for couples? Hard to tell with the new seat map and didnt see a previous thread. Thank you so much!
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Old Jul 1, 19, 11:30 am
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According to the seat map - rows 1, 3 or 5.
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Old Jul 1, 19, 5:31 pm
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Yep - 1, 3 and 5. 2 and 4 are "throne seats."
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Old Sep 27, 19, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by fly2nrt View Post
Yep - 1, 3 and 5. 2 and 4 are "throne seats."
Can you confirm that these A321neo seats are fully lie flat? Thanks!
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Old Sep 27, 19, 3:20 pm
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Can you confirm that these A321neo seats are fully lie flat? Thanks!
Yes.
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Old Sep 28, 19, 2:12 pm
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On the TAP site it says they are 180degrees. I'm not sure but I don't think that is lie flat.
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Old Sep 29, 19, 12:17 pm
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On the TAP site it says they are 180degrees. I'm not sure but I don't think that is lie flat.
180 Degrees is fully flat. If that’s what they are of course.

Here’s the chart from SeatGuru for Executive Class on this aircraft. (Link in post #1)
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Old Sep 29, 19, 7:45 pm
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JDiver thanks for the information. However, I am confused. On the TAP web site it shows the different aircraft and the seating specs. On some of the plane is shows the seats as lie flat and others as 180 degrees. In my experience when it says that it implies they are not lie flat. That said, I am now totally confused.
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Old Sep 30, 19, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by jmj9905 View Post
JDiver thanks for the information. However, I am confused. On the TAP web site it shows the different aircraft and the seating specs. On some of the plane is shows the seats as lie flat and others as 180 degrees. In my experience when it says that it implies they are not lie flat. That said, I am now totally confused.
The aircraft I’ve seen scheduled for IAD is the A330-200, not the A321LR (The A321neo isn’t mission capable, thank goodness).

As of now the flight is scheduled to be operated by an Airbus A330-200, featuring 269 seats. This includes 25 business class seats and 244 economy seats. Business class seats are in a staggered configuration, and are all fully flat. — One Mile at a Time link
What date are you flying? If it’s the A330-200, I’ll move this conversation to the proper thread.

For a trip report on the TP A330-200, see Review: TAP Air Portugal Business Class A330 Lisbon To Newark, 28 Jan 2019 by Ben (Lucky) Schlappig - link Lots of illustrations. Btw, lie flat seats indicated. Ben says to try to “select one of the two best business class seats in the cabin. Specifically, I’m talking about the “throne” seats, which are 3J & 5J.”
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Old Sep 30, 19, 2:55 pm
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JDiver thanks for the clarification. At this point I am flying to Portugal in Feb with BA using AA miles. I was just thinking of future trips.
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Old Oct 1, 19, 4:28 pm
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Our seats on the 321 neo (flying from LIS to IAD) are 2 A and C. They appear to be beside each other. But you all have me totally confused!
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Old Oct 1, 19, 10:23 pm
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Our seats on the 321 neo (flying from LIS to IAD) are 2 A and C. They appear to be beside each other. But you all have me totally confused!
Welcome to FlyerTalk.

I’m confused too. I don’t believe the A321neo is mission capable, and they’re using the A330-200, to be replaced by the A321LR (Which only has 2B and 2E). But we have some very regular and knowledgeable TP Flyers here who might be able to clarify.
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Old Oct 4, 19, 11:47 am
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The 321 neo is definitely on LIS-IAD and vv.
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Old Oct 4, 19, 1:16 pm
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The 321 neo is definitely on LIS-IAD and vv.
It isn't. It's the A321LR:

[KVS Tool 9.3.9/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
LIS  Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
IAD  Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
WED  11 Dec 2019 - 17 Dec 2019

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Meals | Miles   Kms | Codeshare
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------
TP         231     LIS   16:30     IAD   20:15     32Q  0   1-345-7     08:45       1       -   M        3586  5771
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