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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 8:57 am
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Fare Gone Deals Have a Long Term Purpose

Don't bury them in a Budget forum. Many of us book these deals for 6 months to a year out and the info in the threads is extremely valuable re: ground transport, things to see, hotel and restaurant recommendations. Put them all together as a subforum in Mile Run Discusion area.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by wharvey
I have to ask.... if you do not want to look at such a thread, why not just NOT open it?
If you have a lot of these threads, it becomes visual clutter.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
If you have a lot of these threads, it becomes visual clutter.
So does any other thread I am not interested in... which is most threads...

But, I have learned if you do not click on them and just scroll past them, they do not open up on their own.....
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 12:36 pm
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wharvey: PLEASE... no subforums!

Hear! Hear! ^ ~ Until such time as there's a software solution to the Headline Hijacking problem (which, as explained above, will apparently be *never*) ... chatter about new subforums should be a TOS violation.

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Considering the problems sub-forums create (which I don't see because I keep a tab open for each forum I normally want to see, and use auto reload), I'm in favor of working on IB to fix the problem first. Maybe Randy and the TB can get IB to fix the problem and then this issue can be revisited. Besides, there will be more data available in the future.

I still think it's going to create clutter where it is, but then the moved threads from users who don't read before they post already do that too.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 1:13 pm
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Given that there's clutter, where does it belong?

Originally Posted by Palal
If you have a lot of these threads, it becomes visual clutter.
No. It offers me the shortest path, and the most obvious indicators to the information that I (might) want, it increases visits, click-ins and click-outs and thus income to the advertising company that owns FlyerTalk.

To the point, I believe wharvey has it right.

ed1, please don't waver.

BTW, in looking across this board, where I have not spent time before, I am most impressed with the vexation (and threads and posts) that the Mileage Run boards have presented, over time. This alone seems to indicate how far we are from a solution. Whew...

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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Firewind
No. It offers me the shortest path, and the most obvious indicators to the information that I (might) want, it increases visits, click-ins and click-outs and thus income to the advertising company that owns FlyerTalk.

To the point, I believe wharvey has it right.

ed1, please don't waver.

BTW, in looking across this board, where I have not spent time before, I am most impressed with the vexation (and threads and posts) that the Mileage Run boards have presented, over time. This alone seems to indicate how far we are from a solution. Whew...
I've found my own solution to the sub-forum problem (one forum/sub forum index open in its own tab) that works so well I didn't know about the problems that sub-forums caused, but I can't expect everyone to adopt my workaround. The real solution to that problem needs Randy and the TB to pressure IB to fix the problem.


That said, I still want the fare gone threads somewhere else (unless time proves me wrong about that need), they are better in the discussion sub-forum than the deals forum, because in the deals forum they hide those deals that don't tend to last too long as it is. Now if we could only do away with people who can't/won't read and comprehend that MR requests, low fare requests, and MR planning post don't belong there, it will be better still. Maybe we need to find a way to move them without leaving a forwarding marker there, and sending a PM to the OP telling them what happened to their post and why.

EDIT: I didn't mean to suggest we get rid of the people who are responsible for the misplaced posts (although that would have it's advantages ), what I meant to say is we need to find a way to keep users from posting so many misplaced threads in the MR forum.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by ed1
Now if we could only do away with people who can't/won't read and comprehend that MR requests, low fare requests, and MR planning post don't belong there, it will be better still. Maybe we need to find a way to move them without leaving a forwarding marker there, and sending a PM to the OP telling them what happened to their post and why.

In theory, its a good option to consider. Since most posters who fall into these categories are new, I guess we're a bit hesitant have our first Mod contact with them be about a mispost. I think diplomatically, it just is more polite form to allow them to have their initial 'footprint' in their original posting forum, and let them learn by example (our moving them to correct forum).

Again, very few of these misposts stay on page one of MR Deals more than 24-48 hrs. unless its unusually slow with new threads or responses to other existing and relevant threads.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ed1
I've found my own solution to the sub-forum problem (one forum/sub forum index open in its own tab) that works so well I didn't know about the problems that sub-forums caused, but I can't expect everyone to adopt my workaround. The real solution to that problem needs Randy and the TB to pressure IB to fix the problem.


That said, I still want the fare gone threads somewhere else (unless time proves me wrong about that need), they are better in the discussion sub-forum than the deals forum, because in the deals forum they hide those deals that don't tend to last too long as it is. Now if we could only do away with people who can't/won't read and comprehend that MR requests, low fare requests, and MR planning post don't belong there, it will be better still. Maybe we need to find a way to move them without leaving a forwarding marker there, and sending a PM to the OP telling them what happened to their post and why.

EDIT: I didn't mean to suggest we get rid of the people who are responsible for the misplaced posts (although that would have it's advantages ), what I meant to say is we need to find a way to keep users from posting so many misplaced threads in the MR forum.
Your latter points would suggest adding the criterion, "whatever minimizes the impact on the moderators (' time)" ...which also would point to "Fare Gone" being stand-alone, as it would be the clearest to all, especially to newbies where it counts most, obviating even more housekeeping or those pesky misposts lasting 24-48 hours.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by beaubo
In theory, its a good option to consider. Since most posters who fall into these categories are new, I guess we're a bit hesitant have our first Mod contact with them be about a mispost. I think diplomatically, it just is more polite form to allow them to have their initial 'footprint' in their original posting forum, and let them learn by example (our moving them to correct forum).

Again, very few of these misposts stay on page one of MR Deals more than 24-48 hrs. unless its unusually slow with new threads or responses to other existing and relevant threads.
Do you think Fare Gone thread will be remain same exact this original thread with MR Deal discussions. Please ensure if Fare Gone will not eventually to be moved to subfourms. Just keep your advice the right forums. I think it should be better way to keep it the right one of MR Deal thread. Those are not able to be changeable create new subforums. I'm suggested let you know if wants to keep it same original thread about Fare Gone will not to be moved. Its should be good more opportunity to keep it for a long time instead of subforums.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 12:04 am
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Originally Posted by ed1
I've found my own solution to the sub-forum problem (one forum/sub forum index open in its own tab) that works so well I didn't know about the problems that sub-forums caused, but I can't expect everyone to adopt my workaround.
I use the exact same thing.... I guess people should consider using tabs . I usually go through a forum and open up all the threads I want to view on separate tabs, then view the threads, rinse, repeat.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 7:27 pm
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Question What the board now says...

At the risk of cross-posting here and in the Mileage Run Discussion forum:

Since the "Fare Gone" threads have been added to the Mileage Run Discussion forum, is it time to change the subtitle and description in the table of contents?

It would seem, according to the moderators and one TalkBoard member, that the board already has been re-defined.

But does the fact that nothing has been done to the lead material indicate that the issue is still in play, as this thread and others would indicate?

Is it time to commit and make it "official"? It would seem that not to do so by explicitly saying that they're in the Mileage Run Discusson forum would bury the "Fare Gone" treads by default.

(Who does this, by the way? The moderators? TalkBoard? Mr. Petersen? Or the advertising company that bought FlyerTalk?)

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