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Chex, I don't think there was any negative implication to the statement that you had left TalkBoard--the only point was that you and BlondBomber are no longer members, rendering the TalkBoard essentially non-functional, and you both did publicly so state. I know that you both did an excellent job during your terms of service and I congratulate you for your efforts and your perseverance.
I also do not believe that any negative implication should attach to those who did leave prior to the end of their term. Dorian, svpii and Rudi were among the hardest working members of the original TalkBoard and made some of the very most important contributions for the good of FlyerTalk. I have absolute respect for them, for their intelligence and integrity and their decision that continuing to serve on TalkBoard was not the right choice for them at the time. I also have absolute respect for Goldlust's decision to stand up for what he believed was right, regardless of the consequences. I know that I personally made every effort to resolve the issues that made it difficult for me to continue serving as a TalkBoard member and only tendered my resignation after it became clear to me that the the TalkBoard environment was such that I could not be truly effective serving thereon. We are each allotted only so much time and energy and must individually decide how we spend it--sometimes we change our minds along the way. It is not up to others to judge our motives or decisions, either positively or negatively. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doc: Does "it" ever stop? Sadly, it seems not! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif Any chance of us all gettin' back on track and trying to be a part of the solution everyone/anyone? I hope so! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif </font> What solution is there? You obviously feel this is not the solution, so please speak up and tell us your idea. FewMiles.. ------------------ [ FlyerTalkers' Resources on the Web ] [ Unofficial Guide to AAdvantage ] [ Unofficial oneworld Info Desk ] |
And once more Glen makes an ... of himself by trying to uncover some kind of conspiracy that doesn't exist...
The only thing that doesn’t ever seem to stop here is Glen and Punki’s constant attempts to torment the Talkboard. The endless posting by our volunteer police officer Glen doesn’t seem to stop, it’s annoying, bad for FT and quite simply is something that should end very very soon. Glen and Punki, why don’t you leave FT and put some more energy into “that other” travel board you frequent? If there is ever going to be a reason why the Talkboard project fails then it’s the constant whining by you two that takes up all their energy and motivation. Please just give it up or find a new hobby. [This message has been edited by ozzie stamper (edited 11-07-2002).] |
Given the posting style and direct comments, it isn't too hard for the rest of us to narrow down who the latest troll might be.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif |
"I also do not believe that any negative implication should attach to those who did leave prior to the end of their term. Dorian, svpii and Rudi were among the hardest working members of the original TalkBoard and made some of the very most important contributions for the good of FlyerTalk. I have absolute respect for them, for their intelligence and integrity and their decision that continuing to serve on TalkBoard was not the right choice for them at the time. "
- agreed. I think you all made the RIGHT decision! |
So much for having the courage of one's convictions. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
In response to Ozzie Stamper a/k/a ?????, obviously not to you, Cliff. [This message has been edited by Punki (edited 11-07-2002).] |
Chexfan. Perhaps it is a terminology issue you are raising here? MY understanding of the terms "quit" and "leave" and "resign" are that they are interchangeable in reference to a postion or posting. If there is a different understanding/meaning of those words in the USA, well my apologies as that may be your issue - otherwise I still have no clue what your point is.
You publicly announced you were leaving TalkBoard. You posted your own thread about it here October 11, and that thread was titled "chexfan comments on the TalkBoard". That to me was a VERY 'public announcement' from you, pure and simple. And it clearly said you were leaving. My posts above were in NO WAY a comment on whether you had been a suitable or hard working member of TalkBoard. I know that you were. Indeed I made the first post on your thread, which said - in full: <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps: Thanks for the work you personally did chexfan, and VERY sad to learn in the same week as blondebomber announced he has left that you seem to have too. </font> BlondeBomber chexfan svpii Dorian Rudi Punki I have been fortunate to have met all six, (most numerous times) and a TalkBoard run by those six folks would be a vibrant and dynamic entity. Actually ANYTHING run by those six individuals together in ANY field would be a huge success I have no doubt. They are six of the most sensible and level headed and intelligent people ever to post on FlyerTalk. IMO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ------------------ ~ Glen ~ Calling all United 1K Members - please join .. www.1Kflyers.com [This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-07-2002).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps: Finally, so there can be NO misunderstandings from any source, I wish to place on public record that ALL the six members who have left/resigned/quit from TalkBoard I have the GREATEST of respect for: [...] </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">So much for having the courage of one's convictions.</font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SMessier: Why not do as Punki suggests then, and just come out and say you think it is the new/current gang that sucks and that you wish they would go away? So much for having the courage of one's convictions.</font> Curious you should refer to it? And naturally it is not even an original idea. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif You must have seen both of these corny fakes SMessier .... after all you posted right after both on the very few threads in the UA board that you added to this week. I am not sure why you choose to dredge up today my registering other handles in the past? That is VERY ancient history. Randy received an assurance from me that would not occur again, and it has not. He also received other private assurances on another matter from several other users here a few months back, which until this week had been adhered to admirably it seems by those concerned. I do think all FT benefited by those folks involved keeping their word to him since then. FT has been a far more placid place since July. I suspect Randy and staff is busy enough lately wasting valuable time checking into infantile fake handles of other well known posters here - like "bus dude" and "ozzie stamper" above - than to be constantly raking over old coals? SMessier - as to YOUR opinions on the TalkBoard - past or present - positive or otherwise - please express them and share them with us - I for one would be MOST interested to read them. However please do NOT presume to invent or state MY alleged opinions. I have posted nothing of the kind here. ------------------ ~ Glen ~ Calling all United 1K Members - please join .. www.1Kflyers.com [This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-07-2002).] |
This is a conversation we should have over a nice beer or wine not on the net. Maybe we could all agree on that. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif
I never took ozstamps assertions as a negative although I can see that some see quit as a negative. Written language on the net out of context can produce some very heated exchanges. It is important for EVERYONE to pause and reread their posts before hitting the "Submit Reply" button to see if they are just fanning the flames or adding constructive or just plain silly (those are OK in my books) remarks. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps: SMessier - I believe Punki's italicised comment above was directed NOT at me, but at "ozzie stamper" a.k.a. "oz stamper" (until yesterday) a.k.a ..... Curious you should refer to it?</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">You must have seen both of these corny fakes SMessier .... after all you posted right after both on the very few threads in the UA board that you added to this week.</font> On the other I posted 3 hours and 57 minutes after "oz stamper" did. There are no more posts from that handle in that thread. I guess it looks better if you say "right after both" and hope no one checks the accuracy of your statement/accusation? [And no, I am not either one.] <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I am not sure why you choose to dredge up today my registering other handles in the past? That is VERY ancient history.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Randy received an assurance from me that would not occur again, and it has not.[/b] He also received other private assurances on another matter from several other users here a few months back </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">SMessier - as to YOUR opinions on the TalkBoard - past or present - positive or otherwise - please express them and share them with us </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">However please do NOT presume to invent or state MY alleged opinions. I have posted nothing of the kind [Editor's note! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif - re: my comment that you think they "suck and should go?"] here.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Talkboard seems (to me) like an interesting experiment that failed badly - for whatever reasons. An almost total lack of communication all year to general FT members WHAT they were [or were not] doing/discussing/deciding/voting is clearly a major reason IMO. For any TalkBoard member to post that kind of silly comment disturbs me greatly to read, much less from two TB members. If the TalkBoard members have not generated the stimulus to have Town Hall updated they apparently are entirely comfortable with it being totally outdated. There can be NO other interpretation, I am sorry. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. TalkBoard is clearly broken and cannot/need not be fixed is my view. Yet another secret motion I was unaware of it seems that was passed? Will your receive an official TalkBoard reprimand for your audacity and public disobediance? Of course we will presumably never know as it will as always be done in secret. Sorry, but I will not be dictated to by you or cigarman or any other FlyerTalker as to what threads I choose to post on, and how often, as long as I abide by the TOS whilst posting. But as it is all being done in secret THIS is the only venue for us to ask their input and progress report, and the response to that is "to give it a rest". Clearly no hurry or desire then for those CURRENTLY in TB to be facing another election. Democracy at work. For most of 2002 we have heard Diddley-Squat from any of them on that score. Is that a disclosure record they are pleased with? Your lack of research and accuracy in this thread plain terrifies me if you are posting as President of Talkboard. I have made no comment at all about Randy - just some of your inaccurate and misleading comments.</font> [This message has been edited by SMessier (edited 11-08-2002).] |
SMessier .... with a few years practive you may rival doc and FewMiles in the multi quoting department. This effort gets a C+ from me, and shows promise at least. The HTML is also about a B- to be honest. doc and FM do a far superior job on that.
More pertinent - you do need to concentrate your mind on justifying why you spent/wasted that last hour assembling disjointed quotes from a bunch of my posts. A shame after all that effort you did not requote in full your incorrect premise. Why not? As you did not after all manage to prove it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif All that work was of course to try and prove I said as you allege "I wish they (TalkBoard) would go away". I never did say that, and again I ask you to simply outline your own opinions on them, and not to patently invent and misrepresent mine. Thank you. Watching TalkBoard in action this year is surely too much fun? Who here would want them to "go away"? ------------------ ~ Glen ~ Calling all United 1K Members - please join .. www.1Kflyers.com |
ozstamps wrote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Watching TalkBoard in action this year is surely too much fun? Who here would want them to "go away"?</font> |
Geez,
I haven't played in the schoolyard in years (since I was a kid). Looks like others are still playing in the schoolyard. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif Dan |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by blairvanhorn: This itself seems like yet another jab at the TalkBoard.</font> These are allegedly our 'elected representatives' (despite most remainders not being elected by my tally?) and I feel they are worth watching the results/or lack of from. You are free to jab/praise/ignore/re-vote/spurn YOUR elected reps here based on your assesment of their performance. As am I. As are we all. Agreed? I just resent being quoted as saying I wanted them to "go away". This is the best seat in town reading some of their cutting and insightful and meaningful and intellectual commentary above. ------------------ ~ Glen ~ Calling all United 1K Members - please join .. www.1Kflyers.com [This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-08-2002).] |
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