Nov 28, 2016, 12:30 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
This thread documents the creation of the new Non-hotel Lodging Services including Airbnb and VRBO forum from the announcement the vote is open, through the vote and announcement by the Community Director of the new forum's opening. Post-opening discussion is included as well.
The initial forum suggestion thread can be read at Lodging Services forum (such as Airbnb, VRBO, Homeaway, etc)
Non-hotel Lodging Services including Airbnb and VRBO (link)
The initial forum suggestion thread can be read at Lodging Services forum (such as Airbnb, VRBO, Homeaway, etc)
Non-hotel Lodging Services including Airbnb and VRBO (link)
Voting Over, Motion Passed: Creation of a Lodging Services Forum (Including AirBnB)
Nov 21, 2016, 9:37 am
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Had a VRBO letter cancel our London flat on 3 days notice last night. 
Would love to have this forum up and running to learn about what I can do that <redacted>.
Would love to have this forum up and running to learn about what I can do that <redacted>.
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Nov 21, 2016, 4:14 pm
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You'll have to ask the Community Director.
We live in a benevolent dictatorship. The Community Director could have created it of her own volition, but she seems to have, at least up until her decision to dissolve it, preferred to delegate the responsibility of analyzing new forums to the TalkBoard. You'll have to ask her why she chose to do that this time around instead of simply creating it herself.
Aside from some fairly minor forum renaming and reorganization awhile back, as far as I know, the TalkBoard has been the primary party responsible for decisions regarding new forums on FlyerTalk. I don't know what would have given you a different impression, but if I'm the one who is mistaken here, please feel free to clarify and support your statement.
In hindsight, yes--they do seem obvious. It is odd, then, why no one (to my knowledge, at least) suggested it here in TalkBoard Topics. I'm sure that if it had been suggested by you or someone else earlier, the TalkBoard would have gladly considered (and likely supported) it at that time.
We live in a benevolent dictatorship. The Community Director could have created it of her own volition, but she seems to have, at least up until her decision to dissolve it, preferred to delegate the responsibility of analyzing new forums to the TalkBoard. You'll have to ask her why she chose to do that this time around instead of simply creating it herself.
Aside from some fairly minor forum renaming and reorganization awhile back, as far as I know, the TalkBoard has been the primary party responsible for decisions regarding new forums on FlyerTalk. I don't know what would have given you a different impression, but if I'm the one who is mistaken here, please feel free to clarify and support your statement.In hindsight, yes--they do seem obvious. It is odd, then, why no one (to my knowledge, at least) suggested it here in TalkBoard Topics. I'm sure that if it had been suggested by you or someone else earlier, the TalkBoard would have gladly considered (and likely supported) it at that time.
This proposed forum could have been created even without a TB vote. And that's going to be the wave of the future for this place, unless and until TB ends up reincarnated.
Nov 21, 2016, 4:33 pm
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No one has said that TB is the only party that can create a forum, but it HAS been the primary group since 2001. There were a few times that Randy did so & Carol re-aligned a forum or two, but since 2001 TB has been the main party for creating, amending & closing forums. IB has been hands off since the acquisition & basically leaves it up to the CD & TB. I don't understand the splitting hairs at this point & why're even bringing it up, nor do I think most FTers who are interested in this new forum give two patooties.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Nov 23, 2016, 12:42 pm
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Talkboard is awaiting the final vote for or against forum creation. Voting is currently at 8-0, so it is obvious that the forum will be created. I've gone ahead and done so.
Non hotel lodging services including Airbnb and VRBO
I welcome member help in creating a strong description for what belongs in that forum. Please use the link above and participate.
Carol
Community Director
Non hotel lodging services including Airbnb and VRBO
I welcome member help in creating a strong description for what belongs in that forum. Please use the link above and participate.
Carol
Community Director
Nov 23, 2016, 2:22 pm
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Talkboard is awaiting the final vote for or against forum creation. Voting is currently at 8-0, so it is obvious that the forum will be created. I've gone ahead and done so.
Non hotel lodging services including Airbnb and VRBO
I welcome member help in creating a strong description for what belongs in that forum. Please use the link above and participate.
Carol
Community Director
Non hotel lodging services including Airbnb and VRBO
I welcome member help in creating a strong description for what belongs in that forum. Please use the link above and participate.
Carol
Community Director
I'd suggest a hyphen between "non" and "hotel," both because it's technically correct and also to better visually tie the words "non" and "hotel" together. Otherwise, the word "hotel" sticks out a bit too much--actually, that's the word that stuck out at me when I first glanced at the name, and I almost missed the word "non" in the title.
Nov 24, 2016, 12:46 pm
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It wouldn't be a TalkBoard vote if at least one member (who it is will NOT surprise you) didn't hold out their vote til the very end.
Nov 25, 2016, 10:20 am
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On November 24, 2016 TalkBoard succeeded to pass with 8-1
"Creation of a Lodging Services Forum"
Voting Yes: jackal, Canarsie, CMK10, jason8612, skiAdcock, nsx, rwoman, dchristiva
Voting No: MSPEconomist
"Creation of a Lodging Services Forum"
Voting Yes: jackal, Canarsie, CMK10, jason8612, skiAdcock, nsx, rwoman, dchristiva
Voting No: MSPEconomist
Last edited by CMK10; Nov 25, 2016 at 10:45 am
Nov 25, 2016, 11:04 am
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Nov 25, 2016, 12:15 pm
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Shouldn't this notice also be posted in Town Hall?
Nov 25, 2016, 1:49 pm
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Shouldn't you answer jackal's question? 
I too am interested in why you voted no on a forum that FTers fully supported.
Cheers.
I too am interested in why you voted no on a forum that FTers fully supported. Cheers.
Nov 25, 2016, 3:13 pm
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It seems the no vote arose from feelings the forum hadn't been properly thought through though I'm also curious to hear the dissenting member's rational.
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Nov 26, 2016, 6:45 am
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What would be the point of voting "against", given that it had already passed? We've been over this ground before. My vote really did not matter. And, yeah, I guess given the circumstances, "close enough was good enough". The CD will do a great job squaring the forum up.
Nov 26, 2016, 8:02 am
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As are others. Since TB exists for another 4 days, perhaps MSP could explain to FTers her rationale.
While you (and jackal) had some concerns you also thought the forum would benefit FT and saw the support it had by FTers, so you both voted yes. I can respect that because you were thinking of the greater good to FT/FTers.
You're correct that MSP's vote wouldn't matter in terms of changing the outcome given there were 8 yes votes, but I'll be interested to hear her rationale on why she thinks the forum would not be of benefit to FT, especially since she's already posted in the new forum.
Cheers.
What would be the point of voting "against", given that it had already passed? We've been over this ground before. My vote really did not matter. And, yeah, I guess given the circumstances, "close enough was good enough". The CD will do a great job squaring the forum up.
You're correct that MSP's vote wouldn't matter in terms of changing the outcome given there were 8 yes votes, but I'll be interested to hear her rationale on why she thinks the forum would not be of benefit to FT, especially since she's already posted in the new forum.
Cheers.
Nov 26, 2016, 12:45 pm
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Voting "no" and being in support of such a new forum isn't all that incongruous given the dynamics involved in forum creation and realignments.
What's the point of voting "yes" to this forum creation, when another TB vote -- "yes" or otherwise -- isn't really required to make this new forum happen on FT? Being a rubber stamp isn't all that far from being pointless. Voting "no" also doesn't really change anything.
What's the point of voting "yes" to this forum creation, when another TB vote -- "yes" or otherwise -- isn't really required to make this new forum happen on FT? Being a rubber stamp isn't all that far from being pointless. Voting "no" also doesn't really change anything.
Nov 26, 2016, 1:34 pm
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And there is the best illustration of how the current TB have managed themselves out if existence.
Bickering until the last day.
Who cares why the dissenting member voted against.
Thank heavens the CD put them out of their misery. Thank you TB and goodbye.
Bickering until the last day.
Who cares why the dissenting member voted against.
Thank heavens the CD put them out of their misery. Thank you TB and goodbye.