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Voting Over, Motion Passed: Creation of a Lodging Services Forum (Including AirBnB)

Voting Over, Motion Passed: Creation of a Lodging Services Forum (Including AirBnB)

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This thread documents the creation of the new Non-hotel Lodging Services including Airbnb and VRBO forum from the announcement the vote is open, through the vote and announcement by the Community Director of the new forum's opening. Post-opening discussion is included as well.

The initial forum suggestion thread can be read at Lodging Services forum (such as Airbnb, VRBO, Homeaway, etc)

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Old Nov 8, 16, 9:32 pm
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Voting Over, Motion Passed: Creation of a Lodging Services Forum (Including AirBnB)

TalkBoard recommends to the Community Director the creation of a “Lodging Services forum (such as Airbnb, VRBO, Homeaway, etc)”, which will reside in the Hotel and Loyalty programs sub-forum under Miles & Points.

Moved by SkiAdcock, seconded by CMK10

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A motion shall pass if at least two-thirds of the yes or no votes cast by TalkBoard members are ‘yes’ and a majority of the total TalkBoard membership votes 'yes.'

The purpose of posting voting topics in the public TalkBoard Topics forum is to solicit member feedback on any motions that are up for a vote and to allow for comments after a vote is made. It is at the sole discretion of the individual TalkBoard members whether they choose to post in the public discussion thread, there being no requirement to do so.

So while there is already a thread and discussion on this general topic and it is safe to assume that TalkBoard members have reviewed that thread, this thread is about this specific motion.

Please feel free to post questions, comments or any other sort of feedback in this thread, or in the other discussion thread.

Voting will commence by TB members two days after the sightwide announcement by the senior moderators which will be November 11, 2016 at 3:00 PM

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Old Nov 8, 16, 9:54 pm
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As a few TB members have indicated in the general discussion forum there are some unanswered questions to this proposed forum so would prefer to see this motion in its current form defeated.
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Old Nov 8, 16, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052 View Post
As a few TB members have indicated in the general discussion forum there are some unanswered questions to this proposed forum so would prefer to see this motion in its current form defeated.
Your concerns are duly noted. It hardly matters though, we disappear into oblivion in three weeks and if Carol doesn't like what we come up with she can fix it.
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Old Nov 8, 16, 10:40 pm
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I think the title as proposed is awkward and unwieldy. I'm also a bit disappointed at the rush to push out our one and only shot at this motion before I feel that some concerns and details were adequately analyzed and answered. We had a few more days, so I don't understand the rush.

However, despite these issues, I am likely to vote "yes" for this motion as it stands (as I do support the basic idea) and trust that the Community Director will make the necessary fixes in its implementation.
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Old Nov 9, 16, 8:39 am
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Forum title is similar to Ride Services forum: Ride Services (including Uber & Lyft), so Lodging Services (including Airbnb, VBRO, Homeway) isn't that much different/is similar in terms of nomenclature.

Recommended it go in the hotel & loyalty sub-forum/miles & points vs. travel & dining now that Delta & Qantas have partnerships w/ Airbnb, and it wouldn't be surprising if others also announce.

People aren't booking Airbnb & VRBO via Orbitz, etc, so the splitting of the other forums didn't make sense to me & putting Lodging Services there.

For those who will be coming to this thread after the public announcement is made, they can post their input here. Also, this initial discussion thread provides feedback on the forum suggestion.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...eaway-etc.html

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Old Nov 9, 16, 9:01 am
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it should have zero hotel discussion

unless the hotel has some kind of residential units that can be rented by the owner on sites like AirBnb (and AibBnb did not invent this rental concept/market contrary to their marketing)

such a forum would be especially great for reviews and the internet is definitely lacking in reviews of rentals etc

especially reviews comparing to local hotels, or when rental is of a unit AT a hotel

for example re rentals at hotels, in NYC hotel residences that can be included in hotel inventory do not have minimum leases

some of us would say vote is worth having, regardless out outcome, as can always repeat (or modify?) in future
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Old Nov 9, 16, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri View Post
some of us would say vote is worth having, regardless out outcome, as can always repeat (or modify?) in future
Seems you may have missed the note:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...ov-2016-a.html

The last day we can move and second anything would be November 15th, I believe, in order for the voting period to fully fall within our term. There is no way that this motion can be posted, voted on, fail, and for us to come up with a new motion, announce it, and vote on it before the end of our term. We missed our once chance to get this "right."
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Old Nov 9, 16, 11:44 am
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indeed i did, thanks

perhaps vote one way or another could be done by then
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Old Nov 9, 16, 1:05 pm
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I support this. I use VRBO a lot to rent and may soon be using it to let and would love to have a place where people gather to talk about their experiences.
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Old Nov 10, 16, 1:40 am
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I also support this. I have used Airbnb a few times before and enjoyed it.
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Old Nov 10, 16, 8:48 am
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I support this
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Old Nov 10, 16, 10:16 am
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I think it is a great idea. Fine with the title.
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Old Nov 10, 16, 1:28 pm
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These types of lodgings are getting more popular. I'd appreciate a dedicated forum for it. Yes!
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Old Nov 10, 16, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jackal View Post
I think the title as proposed is awkward and unwieldy. I'm also a bit disappointed at the rush to push out our one and only shot at this motion before I feel that some concerns and details were adequately analyzed and answered. We had a few more days, so I don't understand the rush.

However, despite these issues, I am likely to vote "yes" for this motion as it stands (as I do support the basic idea) and trust that the Community Director will make the necessary fixes in its implementation.
No doubt the CD can and will make the necessary fixes, but, once again, I hate the rush to get something done halfway.

Having said that, I'm supportive enough to be a "yes".
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Old Nov 10, 16, 4:34 pm
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For those saying they have concerns or don't understand a rush to get this done or thought it was halfway, you could have been very specific re: your concerns - and outlined your solutions to your concerns or fleshed out what would take it all the way vs. halfway. I didn't see that reading the two threads.

I'm fine w/ the motion & unless FTers really come up w/ big objections (detailed & what they'd rather see addressed), I'll vote yes.

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