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tcook052 Aug 1, 2013 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 21195258)
You are proposing a bifurcation into rants and raves in one subforum and just the facts in the other.

Gotta say I'd not be in favor or subdividing any airline forum on this basis never mind one of the busiest as not only would it not be harder for newer members to distinguish between the two but it forces members to read both halves to gauge how or if the fact is to them a good or not so good thing which is IMHO an unnecessary duplication.

Just MHO and YMMV.

LaserSailor Aug 9, 2013 10:50 am


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 21197947)
To be honest, I might actually read the United forum if something like this were implemented.

It gets really, really old to have 99 posts of "Changes You Will Like" and "$mi$ek" for every useful post with content. The UA forum was always super-busy and hard to keep up with, but now it's gotten to the point where the volume is so high and the signal-to-noise ratio is so low that it's just not worth reading anymore, even occasionally, except for a few specific threads I subscribe to. I get all of my United news from friends who fly United either via conversations with them or their posts on Facebook.

I have submitted the TB proposal to one of the UA MP moderators per your suggestion.

My sentiments are echoed in the post above...trying not to sound like a whiny 5 year old threatening to pick up my marbles and go home....

Sarfa33 Aug 14, 2013 1:10 pm

To bring some youth (in terms of post count :p) into the discussion, I agree that the forum names, as they currently are, are misleading. The large number of threads that are moved by mods from TravelBuzz or wherever into the appropriate airline forum is a testament to the fact that not everyone (especially newer members) immediately figures out that the general topics about a particular airline go in that airline's FFP forum. Renaming these fora to make that more obvious seems like an easy fix that will not really change anything from how it is already being done. :)

Personally, I like goalie's idea for the new names: "Airline Name (and all things <FFP Name>)" ^

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SkiAdcock Aug 15, 2013 9:55 am

Welcome to FT & thanks for the input.

My guess is we'll be getting to this either before end or month or in September when everyone's back from summer vacations.

Cheers.

SkiAdcock Oct 8, 2013 9:32 am

Bumping this up for public input as we're discussing the topic in the private forum.

The reason for the possible renaming (or editing) of airline/hotel forum names is that FT has evolved & the forums, besides discussing the FF programs, also discuss many other things such as property reviews, calibre (or lack thereof!) of drinks in airline lounges, etc, etc, so this would be a better reflection.

Also, for those checking in on mobile devices, tablets, it wouldn't take up as much real estate.

So, pros/cons fellow FTers?

Cheers.

tcook052 Oct 8, 2013 9:47 am

I think this is a realignment whose time has come but think it couldn't hurt to consider other organizational adjustments at the same time. For example I'd like to see all hotel topics under one heading including "Luxury Hotels" and "Hotel Deals" as it just seems intuitive to me to group them together instead of having them separate as at present. Just MHO.

oliver2002 Oct 8, 2013 9:59 am

One serious thing to note is that changing the forum name completely destroys any search engine record it has, ie anyone searching a term in google will not be getting a valid link. Re-indexing FT would take months.

SkiAdcock Oct 8, 2013 10:37 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 21573677)
One serious thing to note is that changing the forum name completely destroys any search engine record it has, ie anyone searching a term in google will not be getting a valid link. Re-indexing FT would take months.

Actually we're checking w/ IB on this right now. One thought is that it's an edit vs. a whole renaming. Since some forums have had name changes & it hasn't seemed to cause a break so far, it may or may not be an issue.

If it is, then we're stuck w/ it the way it is. If it isn't, then odds are we would move forward. For one thing, it would make it easier for those who access FT on mobile devices & tablets; for the other, it would more accurately reflect how the forums operate.

Cheers.

SanDiego1K Oct 8, 2013 10:42 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 21573865)
Since some forums have had name changes & it hasn't seemed to cause a break so far, it may or may not be an issue.

It did cause dead links. Thus, we have a new system that IB trialed on the last name change that appears to have been satisfactory.

SkiAdcock Oct 8, 2013 10:51 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 21573899)
It did cause dead links. Thus, we have a new system that IB trialed on the last name change that appears to have been satisfactory.

Cool - thanks for the update!

Cheers.

MSPeconomist Oct 8, 2013 11:48 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 21573899)
It did cause dead links. Thus, we have a new system that IB trialed on the last name change that appears to have been satisfactory.

This is very encouraging. Thanks.

kipper Oct 8, 2013 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by tcook052 (Post 21573614)
I think this is a realignment whose time has come but think it couldn't hurt to consider other organizational adjustments at the same time. For example I'd like to see all hotel topics under one heading including "Luxury Hotels" and "Hotel Deals" as it just seems intuitive to me to group them together instead of having them separate as at present. Just MHO.

While I can understand grouping luxury hotels with other hotels, I like having hotel deals and mileage run deals together.

tcook052 Oct 9, 2013 12:02 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 21574651)
While I can understand grouping luxury hotels with other hotels, I like having hotel deals and mileage run deals together.

Wouldn't having hotel deals within a larger hotel heading make more sense and be more intuitive? It would to me but that's MHO and was just a thought I had if we are indeed moving toward a site wide renaming of the airline forums.

kipper Oct 9, 2013 6:03 am


Originally Posted by tcook052 (Post 21577700)
Wouldn't having hotel deals within a larger hotel heading make more sense and be more intuitive? It would to me but that's MHO and was just a thought I had if we are indeed moving toward a site wide renaming of the airline forums.

It would make more sense to me to have all of the deal forums lumped together.

SkiAdcock Oct 9, 2013 7:19 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 21578560)
It would make more sense to me to have all of the deal forums lumped together.

Agree.

The sitewide renaming of airline & hotel forums is more along the lines of

United Airlines Mileage Plus becoming United Airlines
Marriott/Ritz Carlton Rewards becoming Marriott/Ritz Carlton

that type of thing, rather than re-arranging where they appear.

Cheers.


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