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ewrfox May 24, 2011 7:51 pm

Suggestion: Allow post counts in Omni PR
 
I understand the issue of post padding, but all those threads are in OMNI and PR has for the most parts been a reasonable debate amongst one another.. IF the Good m/a/e thread in Community can count towards ones post count then PR posts should be as well… I have no problems with that thread or any thread which is serves as a post padding thread to some or a general hello amongst members… But when someone has 1000 plus posts in that thread, it pretty much looks like it’s a sanctioned padding thread and where as the threads of same nature in Omni doesn’t count..

Now that Omni is restricted to new members you can't use this as an excuse to still disable post counts with the fear of noobs running wild.. I ask the TB take a considerate look at allowing post counts in OMNI, if not in OMNI perhaps atleast in PR.

tom911 May 24, 2011 7:54 pm


Originally Posted by ewrfox (Post 16444097)
IF the Good m/a/e thread in Community can count towards ones post count then PR posts should be as well…

I agree with this point of view. If you can post "good morning" and get credit for it, a couple paragraphs in OMNI or OMNI/PR should also count.

dhammer53 May 24, 2011 9:47 pm

It's a silly idea. :rolleyes:

dh

N830MH May 24, 2011 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by tom911 (Post 16444110)
I agree with this point of view. If you can post "good morning" and get credit for it, a couple paragraphs in OMNI or OMNI/PR should also count.

I don't see it happening anytime soon. If they will ever reactivation the post count in OMNI again. Unfortunately, OMNI/PR the post count is no longer existed. If they don't considering to reinstating the post count in OMNI/PR again. Maybe there is forever.

Mary2e May 25, 2011 7:22 am

I agree. If FT continues to permit the lounge threads, where I know that at least 1 person has earned an evangalist title just by posting good morning or what he had for lunch, then Omni* should count as well.

After all, at least people actually help each other and give information in Omni* - even to those who only show up when they need to know something after having bashed it as "not necessary to FT."

That's core of FT - a community of like minded individuals helping each other.

However, if you want to not count Omni P/R posts, I'm all for that. Political and religious infighting has no relation to the core of FT.

I think it's time to recognize that Omni* has a very useful place on FT and stop making it the redheaded stepchild.



*- Omni = Omni-lite - not P/R

bhatnasx May 25, 2011 8:13 am

I'm still good with the OMNI's not counting as post counts. As for the lounge threads - I personally don't really see the purpose of them - they're a playground within the playground. But the mods of the forums that have them support them, so there's not much to be done about it...

Mary2e May 25, 2011 8:17 am


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 16446781)
I'm still good with the OMNI's not counting as post counts. As for the lounge threads - I personally don't really see the purpose of them - they're a playground within the playground. But the mods of the forums that have them support them, so there's not much to be done about it...

Sure there is. The Talk Board controls what forums exist and ask for justification for creating or removing forums. Hence, they're looking at content, and righfully so.

Lounge threads serve absolutely no purpose to this community except to post pad. If anything, they fracture the community. Omni (lite) used to be the place people went to shoot the breeze, and now it's happening in each individual forum with a lounge thread. They have turned into private clubs with thousands of posts in them.

I never would have met two very close friends had it not been for Omni because I never visit the forums they frequent.

I wonder why the mods would want such threads to exist in their forums.

FWIW - I have yet to speak to a person who likes lounge threads. Most feel the same as I do about them. Seems the only people supporting them are those who are active participants.

GUWonder May 25, 2011 8:32 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 16446513)
I think it's time to recognize that Omni* has a very useful place on FT and stop making it the redheaded stepchild.



*- Omni = Omni-lite - not P/R

To truly end the "redheaded stepchild" stigma status of the OMNI("-lite") forum, the restrictions that prohibit the overwhelming majority of FTers from using the forum would have to end.

Mary2e May 25, 2011 8:35 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 16446918)
To truly end the "redheaded stepchild" stigma status of the OMNI("-lite") forum, the restrictions that prohibit the overwhelming majority of FTers from using the forum would have to end.

Are you still on that? What overwhelming majority? They need to be contributors just like in coupon connection. It keeps out the trolls. If you consider the vast majority people who come here and post a few times to get information and then disappear, well, then I can agree. I consider Omni for active participants, not they fly-bys or voyeurs.

As well, I haven't seen you in Omni for years. Did you take a break from FT?

GUWonder May 25, 2011 8:45 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 16446939)
Are you still on that? What overwhelming majority? They need to be contributors just like in coupon connection. It keeps out the trolls. If you consider the vast majority people who come here and post a few times to get information and then disappear, well, then I can agree. I consider Omni for active participants, not they fly-bys or voyeurs.

The lounge threads are open to all -- apparently not "redheaded stepchild" threads in FT forums.


Originally Posted by Mary2E
As well, I haven't seen you in Omni for years. Did you take a break from FT?

You are free to do a search of the OMNI threads and elsewhere to research any username you wish to research. You can even search by username -- even mine -- to see how many posts in recent months are in any given forum. You'll find some there too.

Mary2e May 25, 2011 9:16 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 16447012)
The lounge threads are open to all -- apparently not "redheaded stepchild" threads in FT forums.

Yeah, but they fracture the community.


You are free to do a search of the OMNI threads and elsewhere to research any username you wish to research. You can even search by username -- even mine -- to see how many posts in recent months are in any given forum. You'll find some there too.
Actually, the only threads I've seen in Omni are those moved from TS&S, so I guess that means you didn't take a break. Other than that, I haven't seen you around in ages, except for here. No need for me to do a search, it was just a friendly question.

Good to see you.

goalie May 25, 2011 9:57 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 16446802)
Sure there is. The Talk Board controls what forums exist and ask for justification for creating or removing forums. Hence, they're looking at content, and righfully so.

Lounge threads serve absolutely no purpose to this community except to post pad. If anything, they fracture the community. Omni (lite) used to be the place people went to shoot the breeze, and now it's happening in each individual forum with a lounge thread. They have turned into private clubs with thousands of posts in them.

I never would have met two very close friends had it not been for Omni because I never visit the forums they frequent.

I wonder why the mods would want such threads to exist in their forums.

FWIW - I have yet to speak to a person who likes lounge threads. Most feel the same as I do about them. Seems the only people supporting them are those who are active participants.

Bolding mine: I agree completely ^ and if one could find a way to not have "lounge thread" posts* not count, I would be all for it but going back to having OMNI posts counting or not counting, I say do not count them.


*Good morning. I had lightly buttered toast with strawberry jam for breakfast and it's raining in San Francisco ;)

GUWonder May 25, 2011 10:02 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 16447191)
Yeah, but they fracture the community.

I am against any treatment of any part of FT as if it is a "redheaded stepchild", which is why I think all OMNI posts should count just like the lounge and community forum posts. The most vibrant communities are going to involve people of different opinions and approaches, some who may linger at the periphery but have a need or interest from time to time to pick up or drop off something useful on main street or somewhere near or far from there -- as should be there entitlement as they are neither prisoners nor foreigners who have been classified as persona non-grata.


Originally Posted by Mary2e
Other than that, I haven't seen you around in ages, except for here. No need for me to do a search, it was just a friendly question.

Good to see you.

I thought I had interesting posts in the Hyatt forum as well, but perhaps not as memorable. :o [I don't think there's been a month that has gone by in nearly a decade where I haven't had at least a hundred posts on FT.]

GUWonder May 25, 2011 10:06 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 16447469)
Bolding mine: I agree completely ^ and if one could find a way to not have "lounge thread" posts* not count, I would be all for it but going back to having OMNI posts counting or not counting, I say do not count them.

There is at least one way to do it within the mechanics that are already within the reach of moderators which would not bury the thread: move the threads to a forum where post counts don't count but leave a sticky in the forum that has a link to the lounge thread.

Personally, I wouldn't like that approach because I don't think the best use of a sticky in a forum is do something like this, and it creates an additional step in order to participate in a thread which does serve a purpose on FT whether or not I find much use for it or not.

General_Flyer May 25, 2011 11:07 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 16447191)
Yeah, but they fracture the community.

May I ask exactly which one fractures the community? :confused:

OTOH, I posted in the Community lounge as part of my daily activity and its just nice to meet people there. Please note that not all posts are as worthless as people tends to have it said. Its a nice place to just hang out and talk to people not necessarily engaging in other topics.

But on the post count thing, I am kind of hanging in-between fences because I am not sure. On one hand I don't mind, but on the other hand, I like some post counts too.. :rolleyes:


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