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wharvey Jun 1, 2011 4:35 pm

Just use the search feature.... it can help... but when you get over 500 posts.... which many OMNI and OMNI PR members have, you cannot do it easily.


Originally Posted by as219 (Post 16486650)
Short of counting posts one by one, how exactly does one find out how many posts an individual FTer has in OMNI vs. non-OMNI? :confused:


Q Shoe Guy Jun 2, 2011 12:05 am


Originally Posted by as219 (Post 16486650)
Short of counting posts one by one, how exactly does one find out how many posts an individual FTer has in OMNI vs. non-OMNI? :confused:

Actually it is automated and just not a feature to regular posters on FT


Originally Posted by wharvey (Post 16486998)
Just use the search feature.... it can help... but when you get over 500 posts.... which many OMNI and OMNI PR members have, you cannot do it easily.

Not completely correct, the statistics are available of each poster(as per the V bulletin software upgrade of late), and where they spend the most time posting !

Q Shoe Guy Jun 2, 2011 12:14 am


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 16467707)
But in real life, the number of posts someone has really does not count for anything at all (at least, not above 180 posts which does get you something).

What does it really matter? It is not like Omni is a person whose feelings are going to be deeply hurt because he is not seen as being worth as much as his friends Mr. Community Buzz and Ms. TalkBoard Topics.

Actually as this bulletin board is a money making venture , the more page views they get the higher revenues and ad click thru they can get. Omni is one of the most viewed forums on FT, thus one of the highest revenue contributors. Shouldn't those that supply the revenue to this site be rewarded with at least having their posts count from there. The distinction between the 2 areas is not valid....same as your argument ! Cheers

lo2e Jun 2, 2011 7:05 am


Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy (Post 16488993)
Shouldn't those that supply the revenue to this site be rewarded with at least having their posts count from there.

What exactly, other than a higher post number, is the "reward", and who is being harmed by their OMNI posts not counting? :confused:

Right now, the post count is a reflection of the number of travel-related or points/miles posts they have made on FT. As such, it is perhaps a bit of a crude rubric of how much travel-related knowledge that person has, the exception of course being lounge threads, which I'm not fond of, but that's a different topic! :rolleyes:

At one time, a "reputation" system was tried and failed, so post count is the best we can do to ascertain who does and doesn't generally know their travel "stuff". I would like it to continue to be that way.

According to a search, I have 181 posts in OMNI and OMNI/PR. Would I rather have 700+ posts than my current 520+? Sure, but I don't feel harmed in any way by only having 520+ reflected currently.

Q Shoe Guy Jun 2, 2011 7:37 am


Originally Posted by lo2e (Post 16490133)
What exactly, other than a higher post number, is the "reward", and who is being harmed by their OMNI posts not counting? :confused:

Right now, the post count is a reflection of the number of travel-related or points/miles posts they have made on FT. As such, it is perhaps a bit of a crude rubric of how much travel-related knowledge that person has, the exception of course being lounge threads, which I'm not fond of, but that's a different topic! :rolleyes:

At one time, a "reputation" system was tried and failed, so post count is the best we can do to ascertain who does and doesn't generally know their travel "stuff". I would like it to continue to be that way.

According to a search, I have 181 posts in OMNI and OMNI/PR. Would I rather have 700+ posts than my current 520+? Sure, but I don't feel harmed in any way by only having 520+ reflected currently.

To be frank this whole website is about points, whether they be likes or other currency! There is no reason (as you note above) that the lounge thread dribble should count as a deposit of currency when the dribble in Omni does not.....same, same! And no one here can refute that the OMNI`s are some of the biggest generators of page views on FT ! And eyeballs mean revenue....and if FT is making a killing off of OMNI why not share some of it in FT currency (post count, and titles)! This site is ALL about the post counts and titles! I can think of very few anointed posters that have refused their titles and said they did not care about their posts counting!

lo2e Jun 2, 2011 7:45 am


Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy (Post 16490300)
This site is ALL about the post counts and titles! I can think of very few anointed posters that have refused their titles and said they did not care about their posts counting!

And likewise I can also think of very few that have ego trips about their titles or post counts. Most of us seem to be in the middle somewhere.

ewrfox Jun 3, 2011 7:29 pm

How are threads of Political nature allowed in TS/S.. TS/S was a the creation of congress.. So why is TB the allowing TS/S to exist when every thread has a hit of politics..

I guess I should be posting anything that has a hint of politics in TS/S since those posts count and eventually gets dumped, get this, in another political forum, PR.

Mary2e Jun 6, 2011 11:10 am

In light of the "images in Omni" decision and equalizing it with the rest of FT, is the talk board now considering this proposal?

If not, why?

Cholula Jun 6, 2011 11:42 am

On March 20th, 2011 I started a thread in the private TB forum with this post:


Originally Posted by Cholula
I feel we righted one wrong with restoring the 180/180 and logged-in entrance requirement for OMNI.

I'm now having second thoughts about not allowing posting credit for OMNI. I voted to remove it when it last came before the TB. But I can no longer see the rationale for doing so.

Now I can live with or without allowing post credit for the OMNI's but would probably vote in favor of restoring it if it came to a vote tomorrow.

Just wanted to take the temperature in the forum here and see where the rest of you are on this issue.

Thanks.

The TB discussed this for a short while and then the thread kind of died without any further discussion.

I'll bump the thread and see if we can eventually get this to a motion.

SkiAdcock Jun 6, 2011 11:48 am

Too funny. I was just reading the thread you started cholula, thinking we needed to bump it up for discussion again.

Mary, one of the questions I had in the thread in private TB was re: the new entry requirements being in place & if we say posts in Omni count in posts total, does that mean that people who don't have entry now have entry (something like that; need to go back & reread what I said)?

Also we had a couple of other technical software issues that we needed answers on. I'm going to ask IB-Dick to take a look at the private thread & get back to us on the software stuff.

Cheers.

kipper Jun 6, 2011 11:53 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 16513295)
Too funny. I was just reading the thread you started cholula, thinking we needed to bump it up for discussion again.

Mary, one of the questions I had in the thread in private TB was re: the new entry requirements being in place & if we say posts in Omni count in posts total, does that mean that people who don't have entry now have entry (something like that; need to go back & reread what I said)?

Also we had a couple of other technical software issues that we needed answers on. I'm going to ask IB-Dick to take a look at the private thread & get back to us on the software stuff.

Cheers.

Sharon,

I'm guessing your question about access is, "If we count OMNI posts again, will those who posted in OMNI when it was open have those posts added to their post count, and will that mean they gain access," or some such.

ewrfox Jun 6, 2011 11:58 am

When post counts were done away with we didn't lose the post counts, so if and when post counts are allowed, wouldn't it start counting from the day it's activated?

Cholula Jun 6, 2011 12:05 pm

I would hope that we could just flip the switch again and allow post count credit from Date X forward......if this should ever pass....rather than making it retroactive.

But if it is all or nothing and it sucks in a few hundred folks who might have otherwise been below the 180 threshold, fine.

The 180/180 and logged-in rule was not intended as much to discriminate against low-post FT lurkers as to deny entrance to Spammers, Google Bots and suspended members.

SkiAdcock Jun 6, 2011 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula (Post 16513420)
I would hope that we could just flip the switch again and allow post count credit from Date X forward......if this should ever pass....rather than making it retroactive.

But if it is all or nothing and it sucks in a few hundred folks who might have otherwise been below the 180 threshold, fine.

The 180/180 and logged-in rule was not intended as much to discriminate against low-post FT lurkers as to deny entrance to Spammers, Google Bots and suspended members.

I agree.

Cheers.

Mary2e Jun 6, 2011 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 16513295)
Too funny. I was just reading the thread you started cholula, thinking we needed to bump it up for discussion again.

Mary, one of the questions I had in the thread in private TB was re: the new entry requirements being in place & if we say posts in Omni count in posts total, does that mean that people who don't have entry now have entry (something like that; need to go back & reread what I said)?

Also we had a couple of other technical software issues that we needed answers on. I'm going to ask IB-Dick to take a look at the private thread & get back to us on the software stuff.

Cheers.

No, it leaves entry requirements the same. And honestly, for me, it doesn't have anything to do with denying access or upping post counts. In my mind, and I posted it above I think, is that if I spend time researching and composing a response to someone asking for help in Omni the community places zero value on it, but if I post "good morning" in a thread in the M&P areas, those posts are given a value of 1. It just doesn't make sense and reinforces the general opinion that Omni doesn't belong on FT.


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