SWISS Senses: Allegris for LX
Mar 3, 2023, 2:53 am
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SWISS Senses: Allegris for LX
Exactly the same as LH: SWISS Senses | SWISS
The press release mentions A333 - let's see how they fit this cabin in their 777 or 350.
The press release mentions A333 - let's see how they fit this cabin in their 777 or 350.
Last edited by oliver2002; Apr 17, 2024 at 1:14 am
Mar 3, 2023, 4:07 am
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Anyone surprised... they wanted to standardize and here you go. FCL prices will go through the roof on LHG in the future giving the demand vs. the supply.
From the seat-map they gone back to one washroom in FCL and remain 2 in CCL only for a large C. May be they should offer a ticketing system you can book the washroom via your IFE
From the seat-map they gone back to one washroom in FCL and remain 2 in CCL only for a large C. May be they should offer a ticketing system you can book the washroom via your IFE
Mar 3, 2023, 4:14 am
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One F toilet for 3/4 pax not so surprising but 2 for J is a joke & there won't be 2 dedicated FA’s for F either, obviously
Mar 3, 2023, 4:21 am
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Mar 3, 2023, 5:17 am
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It's interesting to compare the new A333 layout with the old one: it looks like the new F and C cabins in the front section between doors 1 and 2 now occupy the entire space from door to door. They move all the toilets and the one in the very front disappears (pilots only?).
Also row 2 seats D&G with the wardrobe in front require more or less the same space as row 1, seats D&E. I guess it would have been possible to install 2 rows of first in this configuration. Rows 2 & 8 will probably be the ones to use evouches and miles to upgrade from business to business +. Will be interesting to see.
I guess starting the numeration of business class with row 2 says it all: there won't be a swiss bird with 2 rows of first in the future.
In short: this new concept marks the end of mileage redemptions in first and upgrades from business to first. I guess we'll see a massive devaluation of miles starting 2025.
On the plus side: first class will become very exclusive and there will be more space in the firstclass lounges.
Also row 2 seats D&G with the wardrobe in front require more or less the same space as row 1, seats D&E. I guess it would have been possible to install 2 rows of first in this configuration. Rows 2 & 8 will probably be the ones to use evouches and miles to upgrade from business to business +. Will be interesting to see.
I guess starting the numeration of business class with row 2 says it all: there won't be a swiss bird with 2 rows of first in the future.
In short: this new concept marks the end of mileage redemptions in first and upgrades from business to first. I guess we'll see a massive devaluation of miles starting 2025.
On the plus side: first class will become very exclusive and there will be more space in the firstclass lounges.
Last edited by athomas76; Mar 3, 2023 at 9:57 am
Mar 3, 2023, 7:59 am
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Mar 3, 2023, 8:13 am
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Indeed a huge disappointment. Why do they cut down the number of F seats when F is always full 8 seats?
Means for Asia my business will go back to SQ but I don't really see a good alternative for the ROW.Also I guess it's time to spend those mio of award miles before the dynamic pricing and new F come.
Means for Asia my business will go back to SQ but I don't really see a good alternative for the ROW.Also I guess it's time to spend those mio of award miles before the dynamic pricing and new F come.