Airport Codes in Posts
#31
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the OP was under the impression that *only* conventional, 3-letter codes (e.g., ORD, IAD, LGA, etc.) were used s/he would be unfortunately inexperienced of the brutal realities.
One sees "CHI" as in "Chicago" but for either ORD or Midway , "WAS" for Reagan or Dulles, etc. and NYC for EWR, LGA, JFK and from what I hear, as far afield as BWI.
Egad!
Oh, the horror, since some serious confusion can result.
Worse, my credit card statement has an odd mix ---LAX CHI YTO--of conventional and non- codes. All the more curiously because NO-one conected with any tix I charge uses those #$%^ codes, not aircarrier reservations staff, not airport staff, and certainly not well-seasoned FT-ers.
Sooooo, WHERE do they come from?
(But I don't really want to know.
)
One sees "CHI" as in "Chicago" but for either ORD or Midway , "WAS" for Reagan or Dulles, etc. and NYC for EWR, LGA, JFK and from what I hear, as far afield as BWI.
Egad!
Oh, the horror, since some serious confusion can result.
Worse, my credit card statement has an odd mix ---LAX CHI YTO--of conventional and non- codes. All the more curiously because NO-one conected with any tix I charge uses those #$%^ codes, not aircarrier reservations staff, not airport staff, and certainly not well-seasoned FT-ers.
Sooooo, WHERE do they come from?
(But I don't really want to know.
)
#32
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To clarify:
my understanding is that many don't know which airport is referred to by (what I can only refer to as) the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", e.g., IAD, LGA, ORD, etc., and are asking for a mouse-over or some other quick access to the expansion of those codes.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.
How those alternate "codes" came into use no-one seems to know. Certainly they don't come from UA tix agents, airport luggage handlers nor even (most) FT-ers, all of whom to my experience, use the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes."
Indeed after 15 years of charging airfare I just saw the alternates used for the first time on a credit card statement and immediately suspected identity theft; what/where, exactly are "CHI" and "YTO?" I have nothing from UA saying I was headed there. Once I inquired of a 1K phone agent she just blandly said, "Oh....they...appear..."
Use of the alternate codes should be abandoned, in the interest of communication.
I understand you are probably surprised to learn of my interest in clarity.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.
How those alternate "codes" came into use no-one seems to know. Certainly they don't come from UA tix agents, airport luggage handlers nor even (most) FT-ers, all of whom to my experience, use the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes."
Indeed after 15 years of charging airfare I just saw the alternates used for the first time on a credit card statement and immediately suspected identity theft; what/where, exactly are "CHI" and "YTO?" I have nothing from UA saying I was headed there. Once I inquired of a 1K phone agent she just blandly said, "Oh....they...appear..."
Use of the alternate codes should be abandoned, in the interest of communication.
I understand you are probably surprised to learn of my interest in clarity.
Last edited by dcutcher; Jun 16, 2007 at 11:50 am Reason: grammar and typos
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my understanding is that many don't know which airport is referred to by (what I can only refer to as) the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", e.g., IAD, LGA, ORD, etc., and are asking for a mouse-over or some other quick access to the expansion of those codes.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.
How those alternate "codes" came into use no-one seems to know. Certainly they don't come from UA tix agents, airport luggage handlers nor even (most) FT-ers, all of whom to my experience, use the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes."
Indeed after 15 years of charging airfare I just saw the alternates used for the first time on a credit card statement and immediately suspected identity theft; what/where, exactly are "CHI" and "YTO?" I have nothing from UA saying I was headed there. Once I inquired of a 1K phone agent she just blandly said, "Oh....they...appear..."
Use of the alternate codes should be abandoned, in the interest of communication.
I understand you are probably surprised to learn of my interest in clarity.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.
How those alternate "codes" came into use no-one seems to know. Certainly they don't come from UA tix agents, airport luggage handlers nor even (most) FT-ers, all of whom to my experience, use the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes."
Indeed after 15 years of charging airfare I just saw the alternates used for the first time on a credit card statement and immediately suspected identity theft; what/where, exactly are "CHI" and "YTO?" I have nothing from UA saying I was headed there. Once I inquired of a 1K phone agent she just blandly said, "Oh....they...appear..."
Use of the alternate codes should be abandoned, in the interest of communication.
I understand you are probably surprised to learn of my interest in clarity.

The alternate codes aren't confusing at all... if anything the posters are the ones to blame if they are ambiguous. When I say NYC, I really do mean LGA/JFK/EWR (though I have no idea how you could think BWI is even geographically close).
CHI, YTO, TYO, QLA, QSF, LON, PAR... somehow, I manage.
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my understanding is that many don't know which airport is referred to by (what I can only refer to as) the "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", e.g., IAD, LGA, ORD, etc., and are asking for a mouse-over or some other quick access to the expansion of those codes.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.
The intention of my post was to point out:
(1) in addition to those "conventional, 3-letter airport codes", there exist ALSO alternate, NON-conventional 3-letter codes, e.g., "WAS" for Reagan and Dulles, "CHI" for both Midway and Ohare. Any discussion using those alternate, non-conventional codes is fraught with ambiguity; exactly WHICH airport (of LGA, JFK and EWR, possibly BWI) is being referred to as "NYC?":
(2) any quick access to codes expansion that includes the alternates is bound to promote their inherent ambiguity.

Would you rather write "ORD/MDW-EWR/LGA/JFK-LHR/LGW/STN" or "CHI-NYC-LON" when describing a routing?
(By the way, for clarity's sake, please try and use some whitespace when you post
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ALL THIs YAPping abOUT AIRpORT CODes.
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Sufficiently
chastened and silenced, since judging from posters thus far I certainly hold a minority view.
:-:But I still hold it.
:-:But I still hold it.
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#42
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HOU is the only one that is slightly confusing in that it seems to refer to both HOU the airport and HOU the city with the airports HOU and IAH. Despite this I too somehow manage to get by.
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First of all Welcome PMan74 to FT.
Secondly I agree with you and IceTrojan. If I want to go to New York City, my routing would be going to NYC. I don't care which airport and have plenty of times flown into one and left through another one.
There are plenty of multiple airport areas. Kepp it open where exactly to fly to. Everybody knows the different airports in the area.
But I have to agree that HOU doen't really help as a description.
Secondly I agree with you and IceTrojan. If I want to go to New York City, my routing would be going to NYC. I don't care which airport and have plenty of times flown into one and left through another one.
There are plenty of multiple airport areas. Kepp it open where exactly to fly to. Everybody knows the different airports in the area.
But I have to agree that HOU doen't really help as a description.
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...Worse, my credit card statement has an odd mix ---LAX CHI YTO--of conventional and non- codes. All the more curiously because NO-one conected with any tix I charge uses those #$%^ codes, not aircarrier reservations staff, not airport staff, and certainly not well-seasoned FT-ers.
Sooooo, WHERE do they come from?
(But I don't really want to know.
)
Sooooo, WHERE do they come from?
(But I don't really want to know.
)Regarding Safari 3: the widget works fine for me with the 3.0.2 beta. I don't know if it stopped working during the brief interval I had the 3.0.1 beta, but if it doesn't work for you and that's what you have, get the new version.
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