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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by atlion25
Very helpful tip, thank you for sharing
It's actually in the wiki...
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 5:04 am
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I manage to get a flexible rate eventually.

But after I reserve the rooms on SPG, the lower rate in expedia and hotels.com disappeared near instantly
(i think that's likely due to me booking all the available rooms which is available at the lower rate)

Is there anything I can do then? That's so annoying...
If there are no extra 3 rooms available at that category, i wont stand a chance of making the claim
I think the lower rate will be available again on the 3rd party sites once I cancel the reservation on SPG.
(well, I will wait for the BRG rejection letter first)

Last edited by nickchanz; Sep 4, 2017 at 8:33 am
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 6:56 pm
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another successful claim approved by an Indian associate.

Hotel Name : The St. Regis Bali Resort
Arrival Date : 10/xx/2017
Departure Date : 10/yy/2017 (3 nights)
Number of Adults : 2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : St. Regis suite with breakfast
Starwood Rate : IDR 6761783 plus taxes and fees per night
Competing Website : Galahotels.com
Competing rate : EUR 1413 including all taxes and fees per stay
Actual confirmed rate: 4,493,972.31 IDR (~336.4 USD) plus tax and Service Charge per night (5,617,465.39 IDR - 20%)

Response time was about 36 hours. An indian associate also used the wrong currency on the approved rate. A bit of hassle though.
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 6:02 pm
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SUCCESS! Not exactly sure how they got to the new price from the competing price, but it is close to enough to what I was expecting!

Hotel Name : The Westin Kyoto
Arrival Date : 10/xx/2017
Departure Date : 10/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults : 3
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : Deluxe Garden View
Starwood Rate : JPY 117,504 inclusive total for 2 nights (58752/night)
Competing Website : Expedia
Competing rate : USD280 + taxes
Actual confirmed rate: JPY33256 (~305 USD) inclusive per night (41,571 - 20%)
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 10:03 pm
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Le Meridien - TravelUp

Hotel Name : Le Meridien - New Orleans
Arrival Date : 9/xx/2017
Departure Date : 9/yy/2017 (2 nights)
Number of Adults : 2
Number of Rooms : 1
Room Type : Double
Starwood Rate : $315 / night
Competing Website : TravelUp.com via Trivago
Competing rate : $171 + taxes
Actual confirmed rate: $136 ($171 - 20%)

This was a royal pain that took like a week to get matched. The process was taking 24 - 36 hours, then the Indian team would respond back saying TravelUp.com was down and they could not match a rate. I would resubmit and then another day would pass with same response. After the 2nd failure, I had to call the BRG number and explain. The person within N. America said their computers were not working to find the site, by typing in the URL. They would be re-directed to the co.uk version not the .com version. Some DNS issue that seems to exist within their environment or travelup was blocking them so there would be no rate match. The only work around was for them to use google, put in travelup, then get to the site and there they could find the rate. Be prepared for any travelup.com issues.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 4:01 am
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Bad news folks...

Dear uxb,

Thank you for your interest in the Starwood Hotels & Resorts Best Rate Guarantee program. I welcome this opportunity to assist you.

It has come to our attention that all rates on Hotelreservierung.de and ab-in-den-urlaub.de are now on request. We can no longer approve any claims for rates found on these websites. It means that you are not able to get an instant confirmation of your reservation. With these rates you will submit a request for an advertised rate. Once your request is received, the Competing Website will contact the hotel to see if the rate will be available for the dates of your stay. You will receive correspondence back regarding your request usually within 24 to 72 hours.

In order to approve a Best Rate Guarantee claim we must be able to independently verify the availability of the competing rate at the time of processing. As the competing rate is an on request rate and not instant confirmation, I am not able to honor this claim for you.

To find the complete details of the Best Rate Guarantee program, please refer to our published terms and conditions.

Best Regards,

[redacted]
Associate, Best Rate Guarantee
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, LLC
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 9:53 am
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That sucks. Damn. Spg is tightening the rope... First zenhotels and now this.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by uxb
Bad news folks...
Very bad news. This was a key BRG site for me over the years.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 3:09 pm
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Very bad bad news actually.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 5:48 pm
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Sad sad news indeed w hotelreservierung being ineligible
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 12:20 am
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You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved.


wait i dont get this. am i understanding this correctly. I can book the refundable rate on spg.com and they will price match the nonrefundable cheaper rate on orbitz? Why? I thought it had to be same reservation type, nonrefundable vs nonrefundable
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 12:54 am
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Yes, you understand correctly. Starwood's BRGs rock!
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 6:53 am
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2 claims in same metro area

I know this has been discussed in the past, but not sure there was a definitive answer...

BRG's T&Cs are a bit vague on this point: what constitutes "same geographical location". In my case: are Miami and Fort Lauderdale treated as two different locales? It would seem they are two distinct cities, but searching for "Miami" on spg.com brings up all the FLL properties.

In short, can I BRG one night in Miami, and the following night in FLL?

Starwood will compare the total room cost of a stay, and multiple claims for a stay consisting of two or more nights in the same week at the same hotel or hotels) in the same geographic location (e.g. city) may be treated as one claim for one stay, even if booked through more than one reservation.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by evor1
I thought it had to be same reservation type, nonrefundable vs nonrefundable
You thought wrong

So many complaints about SPG's BRG system of late; when this one point puts it heads and shoulders above the others.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
You thought wrong

So many complaints about SPG's BRG system of late; when this one point puts it heads and shoulders above the others.
it does indeed unless the BRG team deny consistently perfectly good claims at which point this point becomes a mute one as its only useful is they actually get approved.

I have been submitting BRG's for probably a decade and its never been as bad as the current state by a long long way in my opinion.
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