Sep 22, 2016, 11:20 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
Apr 6, 2018, 7:31 am
#1366
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Recent Loyalty Lobby post about a March 23rd interview with Arne Sorenson (posted by Hotel News Now, to give due credit).
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/04/...-program-name/
In it, Arne has confirmed that the programs will be merged in the second half of 2018, and have a new name assigned in 2019.
From a comment posted on Loyalty Lobby, it also sounds like he's exploring a market-based redemption, which is... well, scary.
Youtube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY59...ature=youtu.be
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/04/...-program-name/
In it, Arne has confirmed that the programs will be merged in the second half of 2018, and have a new name assigned in 2019.
From a comment posted on Loyalty Lobby, it also sounds like he's exploring a market-based redemption, which is... well, scary.
Youtube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY59...ature=youtu.be
Apr 6, 2018, 3:19 pm
#1367
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: JFK, DCA, BUR, YVR
Programs: AC, AS, BA, DL, HH (D), MR (T/LTP), UA (*S), UScAAre (PLT/1,87MM), WN
Posts: 5,207
We will find out in 10 days...
I was invited to an event in Manhattan in which the new programme will be rolled out.
Apr 6, 2018, 3:53 pm
#1368
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 598
Wow, this is all exciting but also a bit nerve-wracking!
I have a big stay at the end of May and I really hope the new program goes into effect after (unless it ends up offering better benefits, but I'm doubtful, particularly for the St. Regis.).
As the blog post notes, this quote seems a bit concerning "...to deliver even more value to our guests at more cost effective terms to our hotel owners and drive loyalty program that is second to none." Hard to maintain some nice benefits if driving down the cost for hotels (I'm not thinking we're going to see breakfast at resorts and Ritz/St. Regis properties).
I have a big stay at the end of May and I really hope the new program goes into effect after (unless it ends up offering better benefits, but I'm doubtful, particularly for the St. Regis.).
As the blog post notes, this quote seems a bit concerning "...to deliver even more value to our guests at more cost effective terms to our hotel owners and drive loyalty program that is second to none." Hard to maintain some nice benefits if driving down the cost for hotels (I'm not thinking we're going to see breakfast at resorts and Ritz/St. Regis properties).
Apr 6, 2018, 5:49 pm
#1369
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Apr 7, 2018, 7:07 am
#1370
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MAN
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, IHG Spire, UA Silver, Dennis The Menace Fan Club
Posts: 1,457
Apr 7, 2018, 7:12 am
#1371
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SIN
Programs: TK-G | Accor P | SQ-G | Marriott T
Posts: 3,831
I am very anxious now. I am 60 nights short to earn life time gold.
i have 10+ nights stays book until early June now. And will requalify as Platinum again by then. Or probably short few starts/nigts
thinking how to cheaply clock 50 nights in 6 months
i have 10+ nights stays book until early June now. And will requalify as Platinum again by then. Or probably short few starts/nigts
thinking how to cheaply clock 50 nights in 6 months
Apr 7, 2018, 8:16 am
#1372
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
2) How old are you? If you're young, as I suspect, you have plenty of time to earn higher lifetime tier status. If that's the case, you're panicking for no reason.
3) Marriott will do a conversion of all of your Starwood stays so you won't lose them.
4) Save your money. This is not worth doing a bunch mattress runs to get to LT Gold.
5) Requirements will be clear before Starwood's program goes away. Wait until you know details before trying to get a bunch of nights.
Marriott has always treated me and every other Marriott Rewards more than fairly. I expect the same with Starwood members, in spite of what you may read on this subforum. I'm a Marriott lifetime Plat and a Starwood lifetime Gold (only need the years for Starwood lifetime Plat) so I know both programs very well.
Since you're going to be a Starwood Plat, you don't need to worry about lifetime Gold until your annual stays decline.
Apr 7, 2018, 8:24 am
#1373
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,511
If you are technically SPG Platinum right now until the end of Feb.2019 - Do you think that will not change.........and the new changes will take effect at the end of that period.
They wouldn't change this in the middle of the year, would they!
They wouldn't change this in the middle of the year, would they!
Apr 7, 2018, 9:53 am
#1374
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
I'd guess it most likely they will announce it sometime this year (i.e. this summer) with most of the big changes starting Jan. 1, 2019. Marriott has historically been pretty good about giving us a good heads-up before big changes occur.
Apr 7, 2018, 1:16 pm
#1375
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,511
I sure hope they allow the current levels, whether it be gold/Plat whatever, to go until the end of February. I have some vacation booked in February and am hoping to still have my Plat status!
Apr 7, 2018, 1:52 pm
#1376
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
I am guessing it will change at the end of February, right?
Apr 7, 2018, 3:02 pm
#1377
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
My guess is that the program will change (combine) as of 1/1; existing status will last until 2/28/19 or 2/29/20 (depending on which year it was earned).
Apr 7, 2018, 9:47 pm
#1378
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
I think that's the most likely scenario. The details are likely to be announced in the second half of this year, to take effect in 2019.
Apr 7, 2018, 11:23 pm
#1379
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
Wonder what will happen to RC rewards .... would it be better for marriot to just merge RC rewards and Marriott rewards now ? since both programs are interchangeable anyway ?
Apr 8, 2018, 2:02 am
#1380
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kuwait (KW)
Programs: Qatar Airways, Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 2,712
We’re moving!
khabah