Elite Credit for PAID stay for someone else?

 
Old Jul 13, 15, 10:20 am
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Elite Credit for PAID stay for someone else?

I'm sorry if this has been asked, but everything I have found involves questions with award bookings. This has to do with a paid stay. If I call SPG and book a paid stay for a friend from my account, will I still get the elite credit? Do I have to add myself to the reservation even if I won't be there? The hotel is in Argentina if it matters. The whole point is so that I can get the credit to get me to Platinum and I can wipe it out on my arrival anyway. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
I'm sorry if this has been asked, but everything I have found involves questions with award bookings. This has to do with a paid stay. If I call SPG and book a paid stay for a friend from my account, will I still get the elite credit? Do I have to add myself to the reservation even if I won't be there? The hotel is in Argentina if it matters. The whole point is so that I can get the credit to get me to Platinum and I can wipe it out on my arrival anyway. Thanks in advance.
Officially, you would not get stay/night credit unless you are also staying. YMMV, however.

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Old Jul 13, 15, 10:37 am
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Worse, it's fraudulent. I wouldn't be surprised if you had you account audited.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 10:41 am
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Print out the Lurker's post. Someday when your account gets audited and shut down, you can at least point to it for the suggestion that it may or may not work.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
I'm sorry if this has been asked, but everything I have found involves questions with award bookings. This has to do with a paid stay. If I call SPG and book a paid stay for a friend from my account, will I still get the elite credit? Do I have to add myself to the reservation even if I won't be there? The hotel is in Argentina if it matters. The whole point is so that I can get the credit to get me to Platinum and I can wipe it out on my arrival anyway. Thanks in advance.
Can I ask a question? Know that the SPG program is a "member only" frequent stay program, why should you get credit for NOT staying in a hotel?
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Old Jul 13, 15, 11:23 am
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A new thread seems to come up with this question every couple months. Maybe we should start a master thread.

SPG is already generous enough with what qualifies - reward stays count, up to 3 rooms count if you're staying etc.

Imagine if airlines worked like this? The entire cabin would be filled with Elite members.

Remember, if everyone is special then nobody is special.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 11:29 am
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Yes, this question is very frequent (especially if you follow more than one program). Just shows many new posters don't read the threads. I guess if a program ever did allow this, instead of being frequent guests, members would be frequent travel arrangers! Granted there is some merit to such a program but not what we have at this time.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 1:16 pm
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Yes, this question is very frequent (especially if you follow more than one program). Just shows many new posters don't read the threads. I guess if a program ever did allow this, instead of being frequent guests, members would be frequent travel arrangers! Granted there is some merit to such a program but not what we have at this time.
Well there is SPG Pro but it's not intended for situations like this.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 4:35 pm
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I feel like the only way to get away with this is if you both have the same name(like a father/son combo). Otherwise you usually need to check in yourself. People have mentioned to make the reservation in your name, and attach your friends name to be able to check in with the front desk, but risk are involved with that too.
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Old Jul 13, 15, 6:19 pm
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Print out the Lurker's post. Someday when your account gets audited and shut down, you can at least point to it for the suggestion that it may or may not work.
Don't see how the Lurkers' acknowledgement of the obvious, that sometimes properties make mistakes, would be especially helpful.

In fact, that's one reason n they do these audits in the first place.

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Old Jul 13, 15, 7:39 pm
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Imagine if airlines worked like this?
They used to. Search Google for Baht Run.
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Old Jul 14, 15, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
I'm sorry if this has been asked, but everything I have found involves questions with award bookings. This has to do with a paid stay. If I call SPG and book a paid stay for a friend from my account, will I still get the elite credit? Do I have to add myself to the reservation even if I won't be there? The hotel is in Argentina if it matters. The whole point is so that I can get the credit to get me to Platinum and I can wipe it out on my arrival anyway. Thanks in advance.
Quick answer: DON'T do it. Not worth the risk.
Less quick answer: You should know that this violates the T&C (OK, I'm done lecturing). However, IF you were to do this, it would behoove you to maintain a very, very low profile - ie not posting this kind of question on FT.


I did a quick review of your posts; you're primarily an MSer. I imagine you're looking at this as doing a favor for a friend while benefitting from giving him a free room. You are much better off simply gifting him the room and not trying to get credit for it.

Based on this post:
Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
Offered $100 or 7k points on $180k spend. Took the $100.
, you can definitely afford to not get the credit for your friend's stay.

If you're coming up short on Plat requirements, I recommend that you do a few mattress runs. Find a Cat I/II near you and book 3 rooms for a single night on points. That will give you 3 nights/stays. I recommend booking for a weekend night (costs less points). If you need more than 3 stays/nights, do it again the next weekend. Since you've got the SPG AmEx, you only need a total of 22 stays/yr for Plat (the other 3 stays come from having the SPG AmEx). If you were only getting your stays in this manner, it would take you 8 weekends for 66K pts (Cat I) or 88K pts (Cat II) to get Plat.

Since you're experienced with MSing, you know you don't want an audit of your account. Not worth the risk.

All the best to you.
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Old Jul 14, 15, 1:44 pm
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Wow, well thanks everyone for the feedback. I definitely never meant to piss anyone off or make such a huge mistake; I figured this was a common occurrence. Having said that, I won't be doing it since I don't want to take any risks. I was just doing it for the couple elite night credits as it would save me from doing a couple more mattress runs. I'll just stick to the mattress runs and stay clear of this idea and a possible audit. Thanks everyone.
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Old Jul 14, 15, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
Wow, well thanks everyone for the feedback. I definitely never meant to piss anyone off or make such a huge mistake; I figured this was a common occurrence. Having said that, I won't be doing it since I don't want to take any risks. I was just doing it for the couple elite night credits as it would save me from doing a couple more mattress runs. I'll just stick to the mattress runs and stay clear of this idea and a possible audit. Thanks everyone.
I cannot speak for others, but I don't believe you "pissed anyone off", its just the collective wisdom of FlyerTalk.

Might I suggest you read more of the elite status and FAQ threads to better familiarize yourself with the program. You'll probably learn more than you thought you would. See the stickies on the first page of the forum.
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Old Jul 14, 15, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by yank2688 View Post
I'm sorry if this has been asked, but everything I have found involves questions with award bookings. This has to do with a paid stay. If I call SPG and book a paid stay for a friend from my account, will I still get the elite credit? Do I have to add myself to the reservation even if I won't be there? The hotel is in Argentina if it matters. The whole point is so that I can get the credit to get me to Platinum and I can wipe it out on my arrival anyway. Thanks in advance.
If you think this idea through : if hotel programs allowed you to earn elite credit by paying for someone else to stay, then Flyertalk would melt under the weight of individuals offering to make proxy stays at the cheapest hotel in the whole program, wouldn't it ?
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