Need some help with fare rules, please.
Aug 25, 2009 | 7:37 am
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Need some help with fare rules, please.
Hello,
Posted this a few hours before - but disappeared?
Just finished my trip around the world and am looking forward to visit Tokyo again. I found a nice fare on Swiss. However, the flights are on the A340 which means the old business config (which is not very good..).
Anyway, the fare rules are below:
So, the first part says I can only travel on LX for round trips, and the third part says I can travel on LH/OS/SK/LO/TP/NH.
The second part on Open Jaw says I can travel LH/OS/SK/LO/TP/NH.. so what's up? I want to travel with NH the most I can, but everything I try at ITA prices out (if that) way higher than the $2800 fare I found.. Can someone clarify the rules, please?
Posted this a few hours before - but disappeared?
Just finished my trip around the world and am looking forward to visit Tokyo again. I found a nice fare on Swiss. However, the flights are on the A340 which means the old business config (which is not very good..).
Anyway, the fare rules are below:
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/
LO/TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/LO/
TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/
LO/TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/LO/
TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
The second part on Open Jaw says I can travel LH/OS/SK/LO/TP/NH.. so what's up? I want to travel with NH the most I can, but everything I try at ITA prices out (if that) way higher than the $2800 fare I found.. Can someone clarify the rules, please?
Aug 25, 2009 | 1:07 pm
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This question is not MilesBuzz fodder. I'll move the thread to "Star Alliance", as it appears the fare is some sort of alliance deal.
Aug 26, 2009 | 5:12 am
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SWISS LX AMSTYO JLOVENL fare rules and restrictions
General notes:
BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES J
Between AREA 2 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT
Advanced reservations and ticketing restrictions:
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
NOTE -
DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE
LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED
TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE .
THE MORE RESTICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
MANUALLY ENTERED TICKET NUMBERS MUST ALWAYS BE IN
SSR ITEM OR ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT GDS
SPECIFICATIONS.
Minimum stay restrictions:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6
DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Maximum stay restrictions:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopovers:
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
Transfers:
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Combinability restrictions:
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/
LO/TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/LO/
TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
Travel restrictions:
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01SEP 09 AND ON/
BEFORE 30JUN 10.
Sales restrictions:
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 18SEP 09.
Penalties:
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
Endorsements:
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Children's discounts:
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
Miscellaneous fare tags:
THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL.
Rule application:
SPECIAL -ICSWINL AND PROMOTIONAL FARES.
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM NETHERLANDS TO AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/ IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE
HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET/.
--------------------------------------------------
NO WAITLIST SEGMENT PERMITTED AT THE TIME OF CHECK
IN IF ANY HIGHER BOOKING CLASS WITHIN THE SAME
TRAVEL COMPARTMENT IS AVAILABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
General notes:
BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES J
Between AREA 2 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT
Advanced reservations and ticketing restrictions:
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
NOTE -
DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE
LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED
TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE .
THE MORE RESTICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
MANUALLY ENTERED TICKET NUMBERS MUST ALWAYS BE IN
SSR ITEM OR ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT GDS
SPECIFICATIONS.
Minimum stay restrictions:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6
DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Maximum stay restrictions:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopovers:
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
Transfers:
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Combinability restrictions:
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LX IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN NETHERLANDS AND BELGIUM/BETWEEN NETHERLANDS
AND LUXEMBOURG.
-WITHIN NETHERLANDS OR WITHIN AREA 3.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/
LO/TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/OS/SK/LO/
TP/NH IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPREUAS - BETWEEN EUROPE-AREA 3
IPRTS - BETWEEN AREA 2-AREA 3 VIA SIBERIA.
Travel restrictions:
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01SEP 09 AND ON/
BEFORE 30JUN 10.
Sales restrictions:
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 18SEP 09.
Penalties:
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
Endorsements:
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Children's discounts:
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
Miscellaneous fare tags:
THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL.
Rule application:
SPECIAL -ICSWINL AND PROMOTIONAL FARES.
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM NETHERLANDS TO AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC TICKET/ IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT BE
HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET /OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET/.
--------------------------------------------------
NO WAITLIST SEGMENT PERMITTED AT THE TIME OF CHECK
IN IF ANY HIGHER BOOKING CLASS WITHIN THE SAME
TRAVEL COMPARTMENT IS AVAILABLE.
--------------------------------------------------