Lounge Access with *A First Class Award?
#1
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, OR
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I am heading out in a couple of days on a *A award trip via AC miles. The trip is first class the entire way where it is available AUS-ORD (UA - F), ORD-ZRH (LX - F ), ZRH-LHR (LX - C) and then returning LHR-FRA (LH - C), FRA-IAD (LH - F), IAD-AUS (UA - wl F). I no longer have *G status as I switched from UA to AA as my main carrier last year.
Reading *A T&Cs it looks like I will not be allowed lounge access in AUS at the start or IAD on the return. Is that correct?
Reading *A T&Cs it looks like I will not be allowed lounge access in AUS at the start or IAD on the return. Is that correct?
#3
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That is what I expect to happen but just reading all the horror stories here has got me concerned. Most especially with the final connection in IAD. *A is very particular that lounge access is only granted for same day international departures. My only big layover is in IAD for about 3 hours on my return. As the next leg will be domestic F then by the *A T&Cs I'm out of luck. Or am I reading something wrong?
International First Class Customers: Customers have access to International First Class and/or any Star Alliance member carriers' own lounges.
* Customer must present a boarding card for the same day travel in international First Class on a Star Alliance flight
* Customer must be departing from the local airport in International First Class
* Customer is entitled to one guest
I am hoping that LH gets their new lounge at IAD open by the 26th as I'm confident they would let an arriving F pax in. I am not nearly as confident with the RCC dragons.
International First Class Customers: Customers have access to International First Class and/or any Star Alliance member carriers' own lounges.
* Customer must present a boarding card for the same day travel in international First Class on a Star Alliance flight
* Customer must be departing from the local airport in International First Class
* Customer is entitled to one guest
I am hoping that LH gets their new lounge at IAD open by the 26th as I'm confident they would let an arriving F pax in. I am not nearly as confident with the RCC dragons.
#4




Join Date: Jan 2000
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I am heading out in a couple of days on a *A award trip via AC miles. The trip is first class the entire way where it is available AUS-ORD (UA - F), ORD-ZRH (LX - F ), ZRH-LHR (LX - C) and then returning LHR-FRA (LH - C), FRA-IAD (LH - F), IAD-AUS (UA - wl F). I no longer have *G status as I switched from UA to AA as my main carrier last year.
Reading *A T&Cs it looks like I will not be allowed lounge access in AUS at the start or IAD on the return. Is that correct?
Reading *A T&Cs it looks like I will not be allowed lounge access in AUS at the start or IAD on the return. Is that correct?

#5




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I agree about LH if its lounge is open, but, if not, you can always try at the RCC. Worst they will say is no.
#6
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That is how I read it too. Overall quite disappointing. Guess I'll just have to use some charm and hold onto my red LH boarding card.
#7
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Surely, if holding either a C or F boarding pass, then the passenger should be able to access a lounge on those grounds, regardless of *A status?
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So, without *G membership and if flying a mono-class segment, you're pretty much SOL.
#9
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And it has to be an international departure (at least for those in the USA) as domestic first class awards don't get you into the *A lounges.
Of course the same would be true if you paid for a first class ticket. I would be really pissed if I spent $8k on a LH F/cl ticket to Austin only to find out that on the UA codeshare leg I do not have the right to enter a lounge. What a surefire way to lose F/cl customers.
Of course the same would be true if you paid for a first class ticket. I would be really pissed if I spent $8k on a LH F/cl ticket to Austin only to find out that on the UA codeshare leg I do not have the right to enter a lounge. What a surefire way to lose F/cl customers.
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#13


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I'm not quite sure if this is just poor wording but the correct interpretation is that *G members of US based airlines need to be on an international departure before being able to enter a *A lounge. For example I will be flying TPA-ORD but will have lounge entry privelidges as I'm *G with a non US based airline.
Last edited by gate4lounge; Feb 15, 2009 at 3:37 am
#14
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Just an update. I managed to talk my way into the RCC at Dulles but the agent on duty made it clear that he was only doing it because I asked nicely and that *A rules did not require him to. Next time I think I'll just skip the whole *A thing and fly Virgin Upperclass. I hear there lounges are great.
On a side note, on my flight home my seat mate in first was my US Congressman. Ended up having a three hour conversation with him. My first ever celebrity conversation in several hundred thousand miles of flights.
On a side note, on my flight home my seat mate in first was my US Congressman. Ended up having a three hour conversation with him. My first ever celebrity conversation in several hundred thousand miles of flights.

