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Old May 6, 2007 | 5:26 pm
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Valid *A round-the-world fare
Is this a valid RTW?

SYD-BKK (TG) continuing BKK-LAX (TG)
Stopover in USA
LAX-LHR (UA)
Stopoever in UK
LHR-BKK (TG) continuing BKK-SYD (TG)

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Old May 6, 2007 | 5:58 pm
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Looks fine to me, as long as at least one of the BKK visits is a transit (<24 hours).
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Old May 6, 2007 | 7:13 pm
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It's not valid as presented. There's a minimum of 3 stopovers on a RTW. A RTW must also be a minimum of 10 days.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
It's not valid as presented. There's a minimum of 3 stopovers on a RTW. A RTW must also be a minimum of 10 days.
The OP's proposed routing appears to be

SYD-bkk-LAX-LHR-bkk-SYD

As you note, there must be three stopovers. However, since the origin is SWP, there is no 10-day minimum.

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Old May 7, 2007 | 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by henry999
since the origin is SWP, there is no 10-day minimum.
Really? I don't see that exemption in the FAQ on staralliance.com. Is there another definitive resource with these rules?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Really? I don't see that exemption in the FAQ on staralliance.com. Is there another definitive resource with these rules?
Second this. But please advice ^.

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Old May 7, 2007 | 6:47 pm
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check the fare rules (links in the reference links sticky) - SWP origin has no minimum stay for *A RTW (and some other *A products) ^
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Old May 7, 2007 | 7:16 pm
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Wouldn't it be much cheaper to do:

SYD-LAX-LHR-DXB-BKK [OPENJAW] SIN-SYD
Those flights being on UA and EK, using the UA/EK RTW which would be much cheaper. The BKK-SIN portion can be bought for very cheap, especially LCCs.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 7:26 pm
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If using the southern hemisphere version of EK/UA then no need for open jaw (fly BKK-HKG-SIN as a straight line)
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Old May 7, 2007 | 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Really? I don't see that exemption in the FAQ on staralliance.com. Is there another definitive resource with these rules?
Really. There was a story here a while back about an Ozzie who did it as a mileage run.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what the fastest legal RTW might be? It looks like AKL-HKG-LHR-LAX-AKL could be done in a bit less than 5 1/2 days.

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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by henry999
There was a story here a while back about an Ozzie who did it as a mileage run.
I may be a cynic, but I really like to see things like this in writing on an official site. Also, "past performance is no indication of future returns". Perhaps the rules changed after that event.

Originally Posted by henry999
It looks like AKL-HKG-LHR-LAX-AKL could be done in a bit less than 5 1/2 days.
Depending on the layovers, I would think an eastbound RTW would be faster than a westbound one. Also, for a quicker RTW, I would start/end at SYD and PER, thus saving the entire Australian continent. Too bad there's no non-stop between South America and Australia, or a fully Southern Hemisphere RTW would probably win out.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by henry999
Really. There was a story here a while back about an Ozzie who did it as a mileage run.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what the fastest legal RTW might be? It looks like AKL-HKG-LHR-LAX-AKL could be done in a bit less than 5 1/2 days.

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You can travel RTW in under 60 hours (keep an eye out for this soon in the trip report forum ), albeit not on this fare. On this fare I think you could travel RTW in about 82 hours (or less).
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:19 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
On this fare I think you could travel RTW in about 82 hours (or less).
Erm ... how do you get three 24-hour stops in that 82 hours?

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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
I may be a cynic, but I really like to see things like this in writing on an official site.
Kiwi Flyer has pointed you to the rules. The SWP exception to the 10-day minimum has been there for donkey's years.

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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by henry999
Erm ... how do you get three 24-hour stops in that 82 hours?

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2 of the stops can be in the country of origin at the start and end of the trip. I was counting the time from departure after the first stop to arrival before the third stop.

I miscalculated though. The itinerary I was thinking of doesn't work (due to a specific rule), an alternative itinerary I just thought of (and validated with RTWMC tool) would be about 114 hours. I'm sure there are faster options. Edited to add - I found another way to get 82 hours.
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