Major Shakeup with Star?
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Major Shakeup with Star?
I was at the airport earlier today picking up a ticket and started talking with the agent about *A and programs. He told me yesterday they got a memo asking them to remove the *A airline sign (the one that lists all the airlines) as there is a major shake-up coming.
Apparently 2 carriers are leaving the program but a couple of others will take their place. Unfortunately he wouldn't tell me which carriers were affected, only that an announcement should be made soon.
fyi, this was at a US counter.
Anyone heard anything about this?
Apparently 2 carriers are leaving the program but a couple of others will take their place. Unfortunately he wouldn't tell me which carriers were affected, only that an announcement should be made soon.
fyi, this was at a US counter.
Anyone heard anything about this?
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According to online news postings (search Google news), Air India and Turkish Airlines are joining the Star Alliance. Will be interesting to see who is out. These two don't seem to constitute a "major shake-up."
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If anything, I don't think the informer knows too much about recent *A activity.
mahasamatman is dead-on. 2007 will bring in CA and FM. Those two are a lock for an early 2007 entry.
TK and AI have only said they want to join *. No formal announcements have been made by *A. Only TK has publicly stated they would like to join and is now beginning to integrated into *A. AI's still a big question mark - although I prefer they don't join.
As for members leaving, remember it costs upwards of US$50 million to leave *A, so I think it would be big news if something like that happened. I do see RG being relegated to a regional-type carrier or dropped altogether. The next airline I think that thought about leaving was OS, but I hear they freaked when they heard about the exit penalty.
mahasamatman is dead-on. 2007 will bring in CA and FM. Those two are a lock for an early 2007 entry.
TK and AI have only said they want to join *. No formal announcements have been made by *A. Only TK has publicly stated they would like to join and is now beginning to integrated into *A. AI's still a big question mark - although I prefer they don't join.
As for members leaving, remember it costs upwards of US$50 million to leave *A, so I think it would be big news if something like that happened. I do see RG being relegated to a regional-type carrier or dropped altogether. The next airline I think that thought about leaving was OS, but I hear they freaked when they heard about the exit penalty.
Last edited by globetrekker84; Dec 9, 2006 at 2:39 am Reason: Spoke too soon. TK's PR just appeared.
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Originally Posted by TerryK
Could you identify the source of this figure?
Shouldn't the penalty depends on the revenue of the airlines?
$50 mil could mean a lot to some and not so bad for some.
Shouldn't the penalty depends on the revenue of the airlines?
$50 mil could mean a lot to some and not so bad for some.
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I think 50m is the right number (at least the figure quoted when NZ was seeking merger with QF as they had to factor that cost against the synergies). I'd have to hunt around, but won't have time right now (flight about to be called).
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JK and BD is not leaving, both are owned(partly) by founders of *A. JK is booming in the domestic and european market and i belive part of the success is the entry to the alliance.
I could see Varig and Air New Zealand leaving the alliance.
As for joining there is a pressrelease on the star website welcoming Turkish in the alliance.
I could see Varig and Air New Zealand leaving the alliance.
As for joining there is a pressrelease on the star website welcoming Turkish in the alliance.
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There are still rumours about OS moving to Skyteam if they can find their way out of M&M, to a point it makes sense for them to operate more independently of LH and LX.
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Shanghai Airlines are joining (Air India is expected to join later).
Varig is leaving (and MORE or less bankrupt)
Was the old list at that US Airways lounge correct (did they already list swiss and South African Airways)?
Varig is leaving (and MORE or less bankrupt)
Was the old list at that US Airways lounge correct (did they already list swiss and South African Airways)?
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That said, given the NZ-QF merger is dead (for now at least) I can't see NZ leaving *A.

