Is FRTW worth it?
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Originally Posted by no more lurking
Could you supply an ITN, please. I wanted to do this but could not figure out how to do it for 39,000. danke
)Cheers
Thomas
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A current FRWSTAR2 trip report
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
I thought so. Those ex BKK FRWs seem to be quite popular, even though a FRW1 is only about 1,000 EUR cheaper than a FRW1 ex CPH (which is about 1,000 EUR cheaper than a FRW1 ex MUC).
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Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer
..... Fare rules ex BKK are very relaxed (rebooking after the first international leg allowed) and plenty of stops in Germany allowed....
Since the big rule changes of April 15 2005 stop overs are strictly limited to 3 per country except US (5), independent of where you buy/start.
If you speak about Europe, there is still a difference though. Starting in Europe the limit is 5, while there is no limit for outside of Europe including BKK.
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Ok, I bought my last two RTWs in early 2005. Did I understand this correctly? With a RTW bought outside Europe I am allowed more than five stopovers in Europe? Or in the US? Or where?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
A current FRWSTAR2 trip report
Originally Posted by philipat
However, given that half of the world doesn't have F anymore, I'm wondering if it is worth it any longer, especially with flat beds in C it seems to me that CRTW is a much better deal these days, especially after the recent fare increases.
Many airlines don't offer first class anymore (as you say), and others only offer it on selected routes, so it's very easy to end up with way too many flights in C as F is simply not available on these flights.
Creating a good itinerary really requires a bit of work and a bit of flexibility.
If you are flexible and prepared to do that work, then go for it!
I believe there is a thread somewhere in the *A forum with all *A first class routes, might be a good start.
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Originally Posted by jacob_m
I believe there is a thread somewhere in the *A forum with all *A first class routes, might be a good start.
cheers,
Henry
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Originally Posted by Flying Lawyer
Ok, I bought my last two RTWs in early 2005. Did I understand this correctly? With a RTW bought outside Europe I am allowed more than five stopovers in Europe? Or in the US? Or where?
SO.STOPOVERS
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NO MORE THAN 3 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN ANY ONE
COUNTRY WORLDWIDE EXCEPT IN USA 5 STOPOVERS
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FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN USA/CANADA -
THE NUMBER OF STOPOVERS TAKEN IN CONTINENTAL USA/
CANADA SHOULD NOT EXCEED 4 /NOT MORE THAN 3 PER
COUNTRY/.
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FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN EUROPE-
THE NUMBER OF STOPOVERS TAKEN IN EUROPE SHOULD NOT
EXCEED 5 /NOT MORE THAN 3 PER COUNTRY/.
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FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING IN NEW ZEALAND-
STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN NEW ZEALAND AT AKL/CHC/WLG
ONLY.

