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My first RTW E-tix
Today I receive my first RTW in form of E-TIX instead of paper tickets. :-: Well, it will be pretty challenging when rerouting needs to be done later.
My E-tix is issued by SQ. The airlines involved are SQ, LH, and UA. According to SQ, the E-tix is only capable of containing 16 segments total. More than 16 segments, including open-jaw, paper tickets are necessary. |
Knowing you there will be changes. Keep us posted as to how easy/hard it gets.
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By rights, it should be easier than paper. All participating carriers can see the E-TKT and providing there is no restriction other than the "valid Star carriers" in the endorsement, any of them can exchange and reissue if need be, as that's part of the interline ETKT agreement. Most times, it should be able to done on the phone without venturing into an office. Then again, you're likely to run into the usual Star employee apathy - try anything to get you to go somewhere else for reisse. :)
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Originally Posted by CGK
Today I receive my first RTW in form of E-TIX instead of paper tickets. :-: Well, it will be pretty challenging when rerouting needs to be done later.
My E-tix is issued by SQ. The airlines involved are SQ, LH, and UA. According to SQ, the E-tix is only capable of containing 16 segments total. More than 16 segments, including open-jaw, paper tickets are necessary. Are you going to share your itin with us all? :D |
Based on my recent ticket (1 month ago), if SQ, LH and UA are now able to do it, then US is the oddball. That's the only additional airline I had and mine was paper (for less than 16 segments). t1nt1n, that could be your issue as well (don't remember how many segments you had).
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Originally Posted by MKE-MR
Based on my recent ticket (1 month ago), if SQ, LH and UA are now able to do it, then US is the oddball. That's the only additional airline I had and mine was paper (for less than 16 segments). t1nt1n, that could be your issue as well (don't remember how many segments you had).
So no confirmation there. |
Originally Posted by t1nt1n
16 but I had open jaw; arriving in HSV and departing from BHM.
So no confirmation there.
Originally Posted by t1nt1n
Are you going to share your itin with us all? :D
BKK XSIN SQ LHR SQ MUC LH XSFO LH YVR UA XSFO UA JFK UA SFO UA LAX UA NRT SQ SIN SQ MEL SQ SYD UA XSIN SQ BKK SQ Actually, I want to do SIN-XSYD-MEL-SYD-XSIN-BKK, but the mileage total is slightly over. |
Originally Posted by CGK
MEL SQ
SYD UA XSIN SQ BKK SQ Actually, I want to do SIN-XSYD-MEL-SYD-XSIN-BKK, but the mileage total is slightly over. Interesting that they have that. I suppose the flight probably continues on to LAX or SFO. I take it this is an F2? :D Actually, two more questions: 1. Up above you mentioned re-routing would be "interesting" since this is an e-ticket. Shouldn't it be easier? 2. You have people call up their TA (or is it the airline?) and re-enter their FF# to make sure new status shows up. How about with a paper ticket? I'll be hitting 1P with UA (not counting bonuses, I'll be around 20k short of 1K :( ) and QPP01 with SQ by near the end of the trip and it's this last status that I really want to use while I'm transitting in SIN ... :D (Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread. :) ) |
The UA flight (mentioned fairly often) is a tag on the LAX/SFO-SYD service, as you surmised. There are no traffic rights granted on the segment in exclusivity, but it IS OK for the RTW (though you sometimes have to correct an agent on this).
Rerouting *should* be easier, I would think, but if they get confused they don't have any paper to stare at. I'd think the potential for something to get screwed up might be higher. I'd certainly always ask for a new printout/email of the itinerary and check it before walking away/hanging up. Changing dates would be a snap, just as it was with the paper ticket. On United, supposedly status no longer has to be re-entered as they have upgraded their computer system. And it's usually the airline that does it. You can always just have it confirmed when you check in for a flight (or print out the new online record as well). |
It is interesting because at the moment not all *A carriers are E-tix capable. If I throw in a sector on TG (for example), I will not be able to get E-tix. Then what if I redo the routing in the middle of the trip? Would it be as easy as paper tix to deal with? I am assuming if once I exchange this E-tix to paper tix because of TG in my itinerary, the next rerouting will still be on paper tix, even if the rest of the segments are on SQ only for example.
When you reach higher status of UA MP than when you book the flights originally, your new status will not be reflected in your booking, unless you call UA to reenter your MP#. But on SQ, when you qualify for PPS, the PNR will get updated right away showing your new QPP status. t1nt1n, you said F2? :confused: I guess you did not plug my routings in the great circle map... ;) :D |
Originally Posted by CGK
It is interesting because at the moment not all *A carriers are E-tix capable. If I throw in a sector on TG (for example), I will not be able to get E-tix. Then what if I redo the routing in the middle of the trip? Would it be as easy as paper tix to deal with? I am assuming if once I exchange this E-tix to paper tix because of TG in my itinerary, the next rerouting will still be on paper tix, even if the rest of the segments are on SQ only for example.
In your scenario above, you would more than likely need either your travel agent or one of the carriers that does E-Ticket with the carrier concerned to do the reissue for you. This is why it's best (only at the moment) to get a RTW E-Ticket issued on the paper of one of the carriers that is E-Ticketing with all partners. |
The itinerary MUC-SFO-YVR-SFO-LAX-NRT-SIN-MEL-SYD is appeared in UA "My Itineraries" page; as well as the E-tix info, eventhough the FF# appeared is for SQ. The SFO-JFK-SFO was booked in different PNR, because of SQ systems did not show any availabiliy in A for those routing, and the gent had to book to UA directly.
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I've had 2 or 3 CRWSTAR1s issued as paper tickets on LH/SQ/UA and then reissued as e-tickets when I made a routing change and only LH/UA remained. I had no trouble with it at all. It seemed to be much easier than reissuing a new paper ticket.
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* interesting stuff on etix vs paper tix cut *
Originally Posted by CGK
When you reach higher status of UA MP than when you book the flights originally, your new status will not be reflected in your booking, unless you call UA to reenter your MP#. But on SQ, when you qualify for PPS, the PNR will get updated right away showing your new QPP status.
Originally Posted by MKE-MR
On United, supposedly status no longer has to be re-entered as they have upgraded their computer system. And it's usually the airline that does it. You can always just have it confirmed when you check in for a flight (or print out the new online record as well).
Originally Posted by CGK
t1nt1n, you said F2? :confused: I guess you did not plug my routings in the great circle map... ;) :D
*looks at the great mapper* F3? :D Why did you ticket so early btw if you think there were going to be changes still? |
Originally Posted by zvezda
I've had 2 or 3 CRWSTAR1s issued as paper tickets on LH/SQ/UA and then reissued as e-tickets when I made a routing change and only LH/UA remained. I had no trouble with it at all. It seemed to be much easier than reissuing a new paper ticket.
Originally Posted by t1nt1n
Why did you ticket so early btw if you think there were going to be changes still?
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