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Tall Bloke Jul 6, 2004 11:54 am


Originally Posted by Patron
For someone who likes to know how to upgrade on a BD operated flight is this explanation misleading: Upgrades on BD are neither possible using any type of FFP miles nor does DC offer upgrade awards!

Not strictly true, need to add:

BD Gold can redeem FFP miles for additional upgrade vouchers for use on BD metal as described in the voucher section of the BD entry

schoflyer Jul 6, 2004 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by Chiangi
About NH, fare class restrictions (M class up) are perhaps for those tickets sold in the U.S. only?

NH applies different restrictions on different markets.

If this thread is catering only to U.S.-based flyers, then it should probably suffice, though, to mention such restrictions.

I just called the ANA Platinum desk. They said that this "new" rule applies only to tickets issued in the USA. Thus, if tickets are purchased outside the US H and W fares seem to be upgradeable. The "Group" fares ticketed in T are not however.

WindFlyer Jul 6, 2004 3:55 pm

Hi MarkUK. Welcome to FT ^

Even though your question is o/t on this thread, as it is a specific question rather than a pooling of info on upgrading on *A, I'll go ahead and answer it.


Originally Posted by MarkUK
Will UA only upgrade to Econ+ when using the voucher, or will they upgrade to business class as I am already entitled to Econ+ because of my BD *A Gold?

The latter.



If I don't manage to get an upgrade to business (none available) I assume I will be better off on UA in econ+ than on LH in regular economy?
Yes.


I'd suggest that in the future, you start a thread when you have a specific question not totally related to that of the thread ;) . Again, welcome to FT.

MarkUK Jul 7, 2004 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by WindFlyer
Hi MarkUK. Welcome to FT ^

Even though your question is o/t on this thread, as it is a specific question rather than a pooling of info on upgrading on *A, I'll go ahead and answer it.

The latter.


Yes.


I'd suggest that in the future, you start a thread when you have a specific question not totally related to that of the thread ;) . Again, welcome to FT.

Thanks for answering my queries!

I'll repost the question as a new thread so that it gets a wider audience.

Mark

ozstamps Jul 9, 2004 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by MarkUK


Should I book UA or LH for the transatlantic sector?

Will UA only upgrade to Econ+ when using the voucher, or will they upgrade to business class as I am already entitled to Econ+ because of my BD *A Gold?

If I don't manage to get an upgrade to business (none available) I assume I will be better off on UA in econ+ than on LH in regular economy?

As posted above there is NO difference to UA between E and E+. You do NOT get "upgraded" to E+ ... UA does NOT regard that as a separate cabin "class" of service. As a Star Gold you are AUTOMATICALLY entitled to it.

AFAIK the Star vouchers let you lock in a seat on UA NOW if inventory allows, and the LH system is for day of departure I think, same as for UA 1Ks using SWU.

So .... having a confirmed E+ and waitlist the Star upgrade (if WL are permitted on these) seems a no brainer to me.

See www.seatguru.com for best E+ seats.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 9, 2004 7:31 pm

Thanks everyone for the corrections and additional info :)

I have now updated to here.

CDG 1K Jul 10, 2004 1:47 am

Cash Upgrades on Star Alliance
 
This might merit a new thread.

I'm curious to know which airlines offer cash upgrades at the airport as an alternative to spending miles or certificates.
I've heard UA offering the possibility to upgrade ex-LHR for cash as well as domestically through the easy check in kiosks.
I've also successfully paid for a one class upgrade on several longhaul TG flights ($600 between Thailand and Europe; $150 BKK-HKG) and double upgrades are allowed!
CX also has one cabin cash upgrades between HKG and USA for $1200.
What about LH, SQ, et al?
So if any of you know of certain airports or airlines that do this, please do post. These upgrades are never published anywhere so its word of mouth from the clever travelers that visit this forum! ^

CDG 1K

Kiwi Flyer Jul 10, 2004 1:36 pm

That would be useful ^ - particularly for the non american carriers. As that info would change a lot more than the "standard" ways of upgrading I'd suggest a separate thread. If anyone wants to get it started I'd be glad to link it in here.

Apparently you can sometimes upgrade with cash on SQ - although I've never managed myself. Will try to find the post.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 27, 2004 10:47 pm

Bump and some minor updates.

tht Jul 28, 2004 5:45 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
That would be useful ^ - particularly for the non american carriers. As that info would change a lot more than the "standard" ways of upgrading I'd suggest a separate thread. If anyone wants to get it started I'd be glad to link it in here.

Apparently you can sometimes upgrade with cash on SQ - although I've never managed myself. Will try to find the post.

The UK Air NZ flight has a cash upgrade:

http://www.airnz.co.uk/bookingsandof...torupgrade.htm

but at £465 per sector it would work out at £930 LHR-AKL, not reallya good deal.

tht

RichardInSF Jul 28, 2004 5:06 pm

Due the vagaries of doing a rather complex recent family trip that went SFO-NRT-PEK-SFO, there were 4 of us mostly in C on UA except on the one ANA sector (NRT-PEK) where 3 of the 4 of us were in C and one was in Y.

This is about a 3 hour flight, so on check-in I asked the clerk what it would take -- in cash or UA miles -- to upgrade the fourth person to C.

The answer was (after a HUGE amount of computation and discussion over the phone) -- UA miles, haha! -- but for money, it would be a mere USD1,450. Needless to say, one of us rode in Y on that flight! Too bad, since that person missed the option of chosing a Japanese meal with a "speciality" entree of pickled tongue from Hokkaido.

Guy Betsy Jul 31, 2004 11:33 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer

*A - wide specials

UK vouchers
  • Valid for travel until 2/28/05 (travel completed) on all *A operated flights other than SQ.
  • One certificate is required for each *A airline operated flight segment, except two certificates are required for NZ1/2 between LHR-AKL vv and for TG911/910/917/916 between LHR-BKK vv.
  • Standby upgrade certificates are available subject to space and meals availability and eligible booking classes. Simply present the certificate at check-in and at the departure gate. Your name will be added to the standby upgrade list. Retain the certificate until boarding at the gate.
  • The certificate is non-transferable, except if companion(s) are travelling on the same flight, use a separate certificate, and check-in at the same time.
  • Void if bartered or sold. Lost or stolen certificates will not be replaced.
Worldwide Airport Standby Upgrade Certificate
FAQ

Only Y,M,B,H class is upgraded econ->biz - also S on SK but not H on TG. On BD trans-atlantic the upgrade from Y,M,B,H is econ->new econ. On BD transatlantic U,L is new econ->biz. Only C,D class is upgraded biz->first.


.....

I have questions regarding the above *A awards...

Booking in H class on NZ but from LAX-AKL-SYD. Me and companion. I hold the certificates. According to what I can read on the certs, I think I can upgrade the both of us right? And will the upgrade between AKL-SYD be processed the same time the LAX-AKL is or will we have to do this all over again when we get to AKL? My companion holds no status.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 31, 2004 1:29 pm

MY interpretation is since you will be checking through LAX to SYD all at once (I presume) you present coupons for both LAX-AKL and AKL-SYD at check-in in LAX. However the AKL-SYD u/g probably will not be confirmed until you get to AKL depending on availability.

When is your flight AKL-SYD? (There aren't many biz seats and certain flights have a lot of business traffic.)

Guy Betsy Aug 1, 2004 2:18 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
MY interpretation is since you will be checking through LAX to SYD all at once (I presume) you present coupons for both LAX-AKL and AKL-SYD at check-in in LAX. However the AKL-SYD u/g probably will not be confirmed until you get to AKL depending on availability.

When is your flight AKL-SYD? (There aren't many biz seats and certain flights have a lot of business traffic.)

Hi.. thanks for your response. I will be flying LAX-AKL-SYD at end Sept. I won't be stopping in AKL - only connecting since NZ doesn't fly LAX-SYD anymore. I know that there is the UA option, but I think my chances of scoring the upgrade is better on NZ than on UA with all its FFP members getting upgrades.

So do you think my companion can use the vouchers too?

Kiwi Flyer Aug 1, 2004 12:00 pm

Sorry I meant what day of the week and what time of flight? There are quite a few on this route and I'd imagine chances very from none at all to quite reasonable.


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