RTW in First
Jan 10, 2025 | 11:33 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: dublin
Programs: BA GGL, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 108
RTW in First
I am looking at RTW fares, and I want to fly in First for the majority travel, I know first is unavailable on some routes, like internal USA etc, but every-time I use the star booking tool, no matter what I try, its always putting me in Business, for every flight. I assume RTW fares are like discounted first codes, but has anyone ever manages to actually book a RTW fare in First, can certain travel agents help? I want t fly first with Swiss, LH, Singapore, ANA etc
Thanks
Thanks
Jan 11, 2025 | 9:34 am
#2
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Cumbria
Programs: *G
Posts: 562
Europe-SE Asia-Australia is possible in F though the main carrier would be SQ to do that and they don't offer RTW seats in F on the A380 leaving on the 77W with F seats and there aren't many of them - I think only LHR and FRA, maybe CDG. Once you get beyond AUS, it's UA or AC and neither offers F so you are in C anyway. TBH, given the restrictive possibliity of SQ F, you'd be better booking C and looking for an upgrade if you can find one but SQ are also very difficult about upgrades too - I was once told they prefer to off load rather than upgrade to F.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Jan 15, 2025 | 7:39 am
#3
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: RTM & BFV
Programs: QR
Posts: 1,182
I am looking at RTW fares, and I want to fly in First for the majority travel, I know first is unavailable on some routes, like internal USA etc, but every-time I use the star booking tool, no matter what I try, its always putting me in Business, for every flight. I assume RTW fares are like discounted first codes, but has anyone ever manages to actually book a RTW fare in First, can certain travel agents help? I want t fly first with Swiss, LH, Singapore, ANA etc
Thanks
Thanks
Don't like the website. Use TA or call the airline.
Jan 15, 2025 | 5:54 pm
#4
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 868
I am looking at RTW fares, and I want to fly in First for the majority travel, I know first is unavailable on some routes, like internal USA etc, but every-time I use the star booking tool, no matter what I try, its always putting me in Business, for every flight. I assume RTW fares are like discounted first codes, but has anyone ever manages to actually book a RTW fare in First, can certain travel agents help? I want t fly first with Swiss, LH, Singapore, ANA etc
Thanks
Thanks
See the photo for the booking class required for each airline and the notes below:
CARRIERS NOT OFFERING PREMIUM ECONOMY WILL
DEFAULT TO BOOKING CLASS LISTED ABOVE FOR ECONOMY
CLASS.
NOTE 1 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 2 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 3 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
-OZ MANDATORY BUSINESS CLASS
SURCHARGE
ON ROUTE ICN-SFO/LAX/LHR/JFK SEE
PARAGRAPH
SURCHARGES
NOTE 4 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF A NOT OFFERED BOOK C AND
IF C NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK Y
NOTE 5 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
IF D NOT OFFERED BOOK A AND
IF A NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK B
PROVIDED THAT ONLY FIRST AND
ECONOMY
CABIN OFFERED ON THE FLIGHT
NOTE 6 IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 7 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK F
IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 8 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
NOTE 9 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 10 IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 11 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 12 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK U
IF U NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 13 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 15 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 16 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 17 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 18 IF S NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
IF B NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 19 IF O NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 20 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 21 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 22 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK R
IF R NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 23 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK P
IF P NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 24 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK O
IF O NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 25 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK J
IF A AND J NOT OFFERED BOOK Y
NOTE 26 IF J NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
IF J NOT OFFERED BOOK Y
NOTE 28 IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK N
IF N NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 30 IF G NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 31 IF P NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 32 IF T NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 33 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 34 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK A
IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 36 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK J
SQ A CLASS NOT PERMITTED ON A380
SERVICES. MUST BOOK J CLASS
NOTE 37 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 38 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF NOT E BOOK Y
NOTE 39 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
DEFAULT TO BOOKING CLASS LISTED ABOVE FOR ECONOMY
CLASS.
NOTE 1 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 2 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 3 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
-OZ MANDATORY BUSINESS CLASS
SURCHARGE
ON ROUTE ICN-SFO/LAX/LHR/JFK SEE
PARAGRAPH
SURCHARGES
NOTE 4 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF A NOT OFFERED BOOK C AND
IF C NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK Y
NOTE 5 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
IF D NOT OFFERED BOOK A AND
IF A NOT AVAILIBLE BOOK B
PROVIDED THAT ONLY FIRST AND
ECONOMY
CABIN OFFERED ON THE FLIGHT
NOTE 6 IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 7 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK F
IF F NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 8 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
NOTE 9 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 10 IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 11 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 12 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK U
IF U NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 13 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 15 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 16 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 17 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 18 IF S NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
IF B NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 19 IF O NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 20 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 21 IF D NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 22 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK R
IF R NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 23 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK P
IF P NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK B
NOTE 24 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK O
IF O NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 25 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK J
IF A AND J NOT OFFERED BOOK Y
NOTE 26 IF J NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
IF J NOT OFFERED BOOK Y
NOTE 28 IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK N
IF N NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 30 IF G NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 31 IF P NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 32 IF T NOT AVAILABLE BOOK M
NOTE 33 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK H
NOTE 34 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK A
IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 36 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK J
SQ A CLASS NOT PERMITTED ON A380
SERVICES. MUST BOOK J CLASS
NOTE 37 IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
NOTE 38 IF A NOT AVAILABLE BOOK C
IF C NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF NOT E BOOK Y
NOTE 39 IF Z NOT AVAILABLE BOOK E
IF E NOT AVAILABLE BOOK Y
Jan 17, 2025 | 8:56 am
#5
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: FRA
Programs: AC SE 1MM, UA PP, Hilton LT Diamond, Marriott Titanium Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 3,123
Fun fact on the RTWs in Business Class: The fare rules clearly say that TG books into booking class J but Amadeus is programmed to have it booked into D. Otherwise auto-pricing doesn't work according to my TA and also the dreadful *A RTW online tool shows booking class D if you select TG flights.
Jan 17, 2025 | 11:21 am
#6
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 868
Fun fact on the RTWs in Business Class: The fare rules clearly say that TG books into booking class J but Amadeus is programmed to have it booked into D. Otherwise auto-pricing doesn't work according to my TA and also the dreadful *A RTW online tool shows booking class D if you select TG flights.
Feb 2, 2025 | 6:49 pm
#7
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 868
Fun fact on the RTWs in Business Class: The fare rules clearly say that TG books into booking class J but Amadeus is programmed to have it booked into D. Otherwise auto-pricing doesn't work according to my TA and also the dreadful *A RTW online tool shows booking class D if you select TG flights.