Best STAR program --- NOT ual
Nov 30, 2000 | 9:44 am
#16
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: LH SEN, SPG Gold(SCI Gold), Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,482
I have no url for it but I can scan it and mail or fax it too you.
The stuff about using it with International C
is just annoying since with that you don't need a status card for the lounges.
The stuff about using it with International C
is just annoying since with that you don't need a status card for the lounges.
Nov 30, 2000 | 9:55 am
#17
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, Bonvoy G; IC S; AA; DL
Posts: 14,496
The LH site says
Use of the worldwide Lufthansa Frequent Traveller and Business Class Lounges in combination with a Lufthansa flight.
Use of the Star Alliance Lounges on day of travel and in connection with a Star Alliance First or Business Class ticket.
http://www.lufthansa.com/fly/en/mam/...avel_card.html
Perhaps that is why the confusion?
Use of the worldwide Lufthansa Frequent Traveller and Business Class Lounges in combination with a Lufthansa flight.
Use of the Star Alliance Lounges on day of travel and in connection with a Star Alliance First or Business Class ticket.
http://www.lufthansa.com/fly/en/mam/...avel_card.html
Perhaps that is why the confusion?
Nov 30, 2000 | 9:58 am
#18
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: LH SEN, SPG Gold(SCI Gold), Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,482
Whoever is willing to post the passage from the guide on their website I will be happy to
fax it to them.
Anyhow holding C-Boardingpass having or not having *silver makes zero difference for
lounge entry.
fax it to them.
Anyhow holding C-Boardingpass having or not having *silver makes zero difference for
lounge entry.
Nov 30, 2000 | 10:16 am
#19
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 3,373
But Rudi,
35K on AC is 28K in paid J miles, which is still a better deal (appr. 60% of the cost) than 46K miles in paid C on LH--even if membership does last two years.
The one advantage of SEN over AC*E would be reciprocal upgrading on UA--however, I suspect that AC and UA will converge on that issue in order to formalize the practices that already exist on their codeshares.
35K on AC is 28K in paid J miles, which is still a better deal (appr. 60% of the cost) than 46K miles in paid C on LH--even if membership does last two years.
The one advantage of SEN over AC*E would be reciprocal upgrading on UA--however, I suspect that AC and UA will converge on that issue in order to formalize the practices that already exist on their codeshares.
Nov 30, 2000 | 10:25 am
#20
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CH-3823 Wengen Switzerland
Programs: miles&more, MileagePlus
Posts: 27,043
35K on AC is 28K in paid J miles, which is still a better deal (appr. 60% of the cost) than 46K miles in paid C on LH
I am not sure. To get two years with AC you must make twice 28'000 in paid J = 56'000 (compared with one-time 46'000 in paid C with LH). And, at least starting in Switzerland, LH transatlantic-fares are way below AC fares (and you can upgrade on any fares with LH miles on LH flights).
I am not sure. To get two years with AC you must make twice 28'000 in paid J = 56'000 (compared with one-time 46'000 in paid C with LH). And, at least starting in Switzerland, LH transatlantic-fares are way below AC fares (and you can upgrade on any fares with LH miles on LH flights).
Nov 30, 2000 | 12:44 pm
#24
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,726
OK, one thing strikes me: they talk of the Lufthansa Frequent Traveller Chip Card. They stopped doing that maybe two years ago. So now my question is: what's the date on your letter? Maybe it is something from the past? 
Nov 30, 2000 | 12:50 pm
#25
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: LH SEN, SPG Gold(SCI Gold), Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,482
As i wrote earlier this is from my first
guide book I received as a FTL, and I was never explicitely told things changed to the
worse.
And there are still valid ChipCards out there!
[This message has been edited by peter42 (edited 11-30-2000).]
guide book I received as a FTL, and I was never explicitely told things changed to the
worse.
And there are still valid ChipCards out there!
[This message has been edited by peter42 (edited 11-30-2000).]
Nov 30, 2000 | 2:48 pm
#26
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CH-3823 Wengen Switzerland
Programs: miles&more, MileagePlus
Posts: 27,043
I have here aprinted german/english directory: 'Das Lufthansa Lounge-Verzeichnis' 'The Lufthansa Lounge Directory' in my hands. Printed in Germany 11/99 FRA-EC/C, FRA EH.
page 26 ff: 'LoungeVerzeichnis fr Frequent Traveller, Lounge Directory for Frequent Traveller'. 59 Airports (from Abu Dhabi with the Pearl Lounge to Vienna) with access for LH Frequent Fliers to 1-3 lounges are listed. Not one of these lounges is a SAS or a UA-RCC lounge. North American Lounges accessible for LH Frequent Fliers listed are: Boston (LH Business Lounge, term E), Houston (LH Frequent Traveller Lounge), JFK (LH Business Lounge, term 1). Not one lounge in SAS home countries (Scandinavia) is on the list.
page 26 ff: 'LoungeVerzeichnis fr Frequent Traveller, Lounge Directory for Frequent Traveller'. 59 Airports (from Abu Dhabi with the Pearl Lounge to Vienna) with access for LH Frequent Fliers to 1-3 lounges are listed. Not one of these lounges is a SAS or a UA-RCC lounge. North American Lounges accessible for LH Frequent Fliers listed are: Boston (LH Business Lounge, term E), Houston (LH Frequent Traveller Lounge), JFK (LH Business Lounge, term 1). Not one lounge in SAS home countries (Scandinavia) is on the list.
Nov 30, 2000 | 3:30 pm
#27
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, Bonvoy G; IC S; AA; DL
Posts: 14,496
Don't the rules change every year? (or every two with LH?)
It would seem if this was a few years old then it would not apply and the new member guide would supercede this.
I had trouble with Peter's link so posted it here:
http://members.home.net/deercroft/ftl.jpg
It would seem if this was a few years old then it would not apply and the new member guide would supercede this.
I had trouble with Peter's link so posted it here:
http://members.home.net/deercroft/ftl.jpg
Dec 1, 2000 | 1:25 am
#29
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,726
I suppose you got the new rules with the booklet "Status has its own privileges", September 2000 issue (the one with the new FTL and SEN Executive bonus). These are the current rules. And the Lounge directory Rudi mentioned is the new one. But there might be something new coming out because in Exclusive 12/2000 on page 5 they say "Mehr ber das Lounge-Angebot bei Lufthansa und im Verbund der Star Alliance in der nchsten Ausgabe" (More on LH and Star Alliance lounges in the next edition).
Dec 1, 2000 | 2:04 am
#30
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: LH SEN, SPG Gold(SCI Gold), Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,482
Of course you are right Curt, you probably won't get into an RCC, but want bugs me is that until now they never really told us things have changed, I read the notice in the Exclusive too, but so far nothing has been told.