Current *A RTW fares?
Aug 24, 2011, 10:16 am
#1
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Current *A RTW fares?
Hey gang,
Anyone know the current pricing on USA-Australia-Europe-USA fares with Star Alliance? I need to go to Australia and am seeing fares around $10k in business class. Thought if the RTW isn't much more then I would spend a little time in Europe before heading home. Any estimates would be great and if you know of good booking agents that would be helpful too
Anyone know the current pricing on USA-Australia-Europe-USA fares with Star Alliance? I need to go to Australia and am seeing fares around $10k in business class. Thought if the RTW isn't much more then I would spend a little time in Europe before heading home. Any estimates would be great and if you know of good booking agents that would be helpful too
Aug 24, 2011, 6:36 pm
#2
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Look for the CRWSTAR.
For australia you likely need the 2 or 3 variant
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For australia you likely need the 2 or 3 variant
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JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK] RTW 27 Aug 2011 | 21 Nov 2011 | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- AA NYC NYC 8200 USD DCIRAT17 SQ NYC NYC 8200 USD CRWESC CA NYC NYC 8280 USD DRW1 AA NYC NYC 8600 USD DCIRAT21 AM NYC NYC 8880 USD JRTWSKY3 OK NYC NYC 8880 USD DRTWSKY3 AA NYC NYC 9300 USD DCIR22 AA NYC NYC 9900 USD DCIRAT25 AM NYC NYC 10013 USD JRTWSKY2 OK NYC NYC 10013 USD DRTWSKY2 AA NYC NYC 10199 USD DONE3 IG NYC NYC 10599 USD DGLOB34 AA NYC NYC 10799 USD DONE4 AY NYC NYC 11000 USD ACIRAT17 AA NYC NYC 11200 USD DCIR26 AM NYC NYC 11558 USD JRTWSKY1 OK NYC NYC 11558 USD DRTWSKY1 A3 NYC NYC 11849 USD CRWSTAR1 AY NYC NYC 11900 USD ACIRAT21 AA NYC NYC 12299 USD DONE5 AA NYC NYC 12300 USD DCIR29SA AY NYC NYC 13700 USD ACIRAT25 A3 NYC NYC 13739 USD CRWSTAR2 AA NYC NYC 14099 USD DONE6 A3 NYC NYC 15755 USD CRWSTAR3
Aug 24, 2011, 6:38 pm
#3
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And for comparison LAX-SYD RT fares
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LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] R/T 27 Aug 2011 | 21 Nov 2011 | Business Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- HA LAX SYD 2818 USD PLARNR HA LAX SYD 3668 USD JLARNR CZ LAX SYD 4050 USD DRTU HA LAX SYD 4408 USD JLAONR FJ LAX SYD 4530 USD CBULART FJ LAX SYD 5390 USD CBULAOW FJ LAX SYD 5530 USD DBULART CZ LAX SYD 6550 USD CRTU FJ LAX SYD 6590 USD DBULAOW CA LAX SYD 8230 USD DSW HA LAX SYD 8542 USD JOX JL LAX SYD 8765 USD C2JLRT JL LAX SYD 8765 USD D2JLRT AC LAX SYD 8779 USD C0UD QF LAX SYD 8919 USD IXRT3 AA LAX SYD 8919 USD IX3QP1Y NZ LAX SYD 8919 USD JXA1 CO LAX SYD 8919 USD DFX3ZUMC VA LAX SYD 8919 USD IZRUSS DL LAX SYD 8919 USD DXR3 QF LAX SYD 9919 USD IWRT3 AA LAX SYD 9919 USD IW3QP1Y NZ LAX SYD 9919 USD JWA1 CO LAX SYD 9919 USD DFW3ZUMC DL LAX SYD 9919 USD DWR3 NZ LAX SYD 10118 USD Z3 VA LAX SYD 10509 USD DZRUSS DL LAX SYD 10509 USD DFFUS DL LAX SYD 10509 USD DRFLAT FJ LAX SYD 10542 USD J2OW FJ LAX SYD 10560 USD J2RT AC LAX SYD 10596 USD C0UDO FJ LAX SYD 11034 USD JOW NZ LAX SYD 11148 USD D3 KE LAX SYD 11346 USD CWRT DL LAX SYD 12292 USD DFLAT DL LAX SYD 12324 USD DFFWUS QF LAX SYD 12360 USD IOXRT AA LAX SYD 12360 USD I2OXRT VA LAX SYD 12844 USD IZRUS OZ LAX SYD 12916 USD C1W QF LAX SYD 12919 USD DRT3A AA LAX SYD 12919 USD D3QP1Y CO LAX SYD 12919 USD C2RMB NZ LAX SYD 13188 USD C3 VA LAX SYD 13244 USD DZRUS OZ LAX SYD 13316 USD CW DL LAX SYD 13510 USD CFFUS DL LAX SYD 13510 USD CRFLAT HA LAX SYD 13714 USD J29
Aug 24, 2011, 11:42 pm
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You could also see if SQ has their special RTW. The FEZSQ was running around $7000, allows for 5 sectors. You would have to buy a separate SIN-SYD RT.
Also, you could buy a JFK-IST-KUL RT in C on Turkish for around $2500, and another on ANA from SE Asia-US in C for $2500. Again, you would have to buy a separate ticket from SE Asia to SYD, But this would give you a stopover in Europe and in Japan as well as 2 RTWs, one in each direction.
Also, you could buy a JFK-IST-KUL RT in C on Turkish for around $2500, and another on ANA from SE Asia-US in C for $2500. Again, you would have to buy a separate ticket from SE Asia to SYD, But this would give you a stopover in Europe and in Japan as well as 2 RTWs, one in each direction.
Aug 25, 2011, 7:12 am
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This is the F RTW on SQ.
I also copied the rules. It is very restrictive, no 380F, no SIN-SYD, need to make your own way at the end back to your starting point.
There is also a CEZSQ for 5299, but that one does not make much sense because it has surcharges for the 380, 77W and 345 and should end up higher than the F fare (no surcharge when you travel in business).
Then there is a CRWESC for 8200 which likely is better for you. NZ, Virgin and SQ. Same surcharges on SQ.
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JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
RTW 12 Oct 2011 | 21 Nov 2011 | First
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------
SQ NYC NYC 6699 USD FEZSQ
SQ NYC NYC 17274 USD FRWSTAR1
SQ NYC NYC 20059 USD FRWSTAR2
SQ NYC NYC 23446 USD FRWSTAR3
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This is for the virgin/NZ/SQ combination
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I also copied the rules. It is very restrictive, no 380F, no SIN-SYD, need to make your own way at the end back to your starting point.
There is also a CEZSQ for 5299, but that one does not make much sense because it has surcharges for the 380, 77W and 345 and should end up higher than the F fare (no surcharge when you travel in business).
Then there is a CRWESC for 8200 which likely is better for you. NZ, Virgin and SQ. Same surcharges on SQ.
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JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
RTW 12 Oct 2011 | 21 Nov 2011 | First
Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis/TD
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------
SQ NYC NYC 6699 USD FEZSQ
SQ NYC NYC 17274 USD FRWSTAR1
SQ NYC NYC 20059 USD FRWSTAR2
SQ NYC NYC 23446 USD FRWSTAR3
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[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SQ EASY APAC FARE
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW/ROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNEYS.
OTHER CONDITIONS
FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
EXCEPTION -
MAY BE USED FOR ENROUTE UPGRADING FROM A LOWER
FARE PROVIDED ALL CONDITIONS OF THESE FARES ARE
MET.
TRAVEL VIA BOTH THE ATLANTIC AND THE PACIFIC ON
SQ SERVICES ONLY.
FARES -
1.THIS FARE APPLIES ONLY WHEN PURCHASED BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
2.WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD OUTSIDE COUNTRY ORIGIN
THE APPLICABLE LOCAL CURRENCY FARES SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF SALE AT BSR BUT
IN NO INSTANCE SHALL THE FARE BE LESS THAN
THAT APPLICABLE FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
3.IF FARES ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN LOCAL CURRENCY
FROM COUNTRY OF SALE THE CORRESPONDING USD
FARES WILL BE USED FOR COMPARISON PURPOSE.
PASSENGER EXPENSES-
EN ROUTE PASSENGER EXPENSES SHALL NOT BE
ABSORBED BY THE CARRIERS.
[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SQ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 7999
SQ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO
SOUTHWEST PACIFIC ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SQ FLIGHT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS EASTBOUND OR
WESTBOUND GLOBAL DIRECTION.
TRAVEL BY SURFACE SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED
PROVIDED THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN EXPENSES.
THE POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER REBOARDS SQ
SERVICES MUST BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
NO BACKTRACKING IS PERMITTED EXCEPT BETWEEN TWO SQ
EUROPEAN DESTINATIONS. THIS MAY BE BY SURFACE OR
VIA SQ SERVICES.
-SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC RIGHT RESTRICTIONS-
NO CITY MAY BE TRANSITTED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE
ENTIRE JOURNEY.
[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETING ENTRIES
ALL TICKETS INCLUDING CONJUNCTION TICKETS MUST
SHOW THE COMPLETE FARE CONSTRUCTION IN VERTICICAL
OR LINEAR - FARE CONSTRUCTION BOXES-
[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
[Stopovers]
5 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED AT CITIES SERVED BY SQ.
-ROUTING CONDITIONS MUST BE OBSERVED.
-STOPOVERS ARE SUB TO TRAFFIC RIGHT RESTRICTIONS
[Transfers]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NO SPCL REQUIREMENTS
TRAVEL BY SURFACE SECTORS WILL BE PERMITTED
PROVIDED THEY ARE AT THE PASSENGER OWN EXPENSES
THE POINT AT WHICH THE PASSENGER REBOARDS SQ
SEVICES MUST BE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
[Combinations]
ROUND TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
END-ON-END NOTE -
SIDE TRIP COMBINATIONS PERMITTED.
PASSENGERS MAY PURCHASE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE
ANY VISIT AMERICA- OR OTHER FARES
OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE OF THE SAME FARE
TYPE FOR CARRIER SQ IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.
[Surcharges]
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SQ BUSINESS PLUS SURCHARGES ON B773ER/A380/A345
SERVICES
AIRCRAFT EQUIPMENT TYPE CODES-
THE SURCHARGE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO PASSENGER PAYIN
AET CODE- 77W EQUIPMENT TYPE- B773ER
AET CODE- 345 EQUIPMENT TYPE- A340-500
AET CODE- 388 EQUIPMENT TYPE- A380
THE SURCHARGE IS NOT APPLICABLE TO PASSENGER
PAYING FIRST CLASS RTW FARE.
1.THE SURCHARGE IN THE MATRIX BELOW WILL BE LEVIED
ON BUSINESS CLASS RTW PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON
B773ER/A380 AND A345 SERVICES
2. SQ A380/B773ER//A345 BUSINESS CLASS Q-SURCHARGE
MATRIX
ROUTE OR V.V Q -SURCH PER SECTOR
VIA 345
SIN-AMERICAS LAX/EWR USD 900
VIA 388/77W
1. SIN
- AMERICAS /VIA PA OR AT / USD 600
2. KOREA/HONG KONG - AMERICAS /VIA PA/ USD 500
3. EUROPE
- AMERICAS /VIA AT/ USD 500
4. SIN
- EUROPE USD 500
5. SIN
- SOUTH WEST PACIFIC USD 400
6. SIN
- SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT USD 300
7. SIN - KOREA/JAPAN/SOUTH EAST ASIA
USD 300
8. WITHIN EUROPE USD 300
3.THE SURCHARGE AMOUNT MUST BE REFLECTED AS A
Q-SURCHARGE AFTER THE B773ER/A380/A345 SECTOR.
4.DISCOUNTS
- CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES.
- INFANTS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT - NO CHARGE
- INFANTS OCCUPYING A SEAT- CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES
- NO OTHER DISCOUNTS APPLY
B.ONE OW/RT SIDE TRIP TO/FROM SIN IS PERMITTED ON
MI SERVICES
SECTOR V.V. COW IN USD YOW IN US
SIN/HKT/MES/ 216 115
SIN/MDC/PNH/RGN/BPN 390 220
REP
SIN/KMG/XMN/CEB/DVO/TRV 519 254
SIN/LGK 130 J 100
CLASS
SIN/CNX/AMI/SOC 302 148
NOTE/ RT ADDON IS TWICE THE OW
[Sales Restrictions]
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 27APR10.
[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
BEFORE DEADLINE - FULL REFUND
AFTER DEADLINE/NO SHOW - 25PCT OF FARE PAID NOT
REFUNDABLE.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CANCELLATION - THE REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID
AND THE APPLICABLE NORMAL FARE FOR
THE JOURNEY COMPLETED LESS25 PCT
THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MUST NOT BE USED AS
CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASE OF ANY OTHER FARE.
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHANGES AFTER DEADLINE-
1.FIRST INTERNATIONAL OUTBOUND SECTOR-
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
2.OTHER SECTORS
A.ONE TRANSACTION PERMITTED FREE
B.SUBSEQUENT CHANGES REQUIRING TICKET REISS
WILL BE PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF USD25/GB
-15 EX U.K ONLY- PER AFFECTED FLIGHT
COUPON
[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
STOPOVERS.
[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- VALID SQ ONLY - AND - AND-NON-REF/APAC - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY AT LEAST 1
BUT NO MORE THAN 1 ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ONLY ONE INFANT SHALL ACCOMPANY EACH ADULT
PASSENGER
ANY ADDITIONAL INFANT WILL BE CHARGED 67 PCT
OF THE ADULT FARE AND A SEAT WILL BE RESERVED
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 67
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY AT LEAST 1
BUT NO MORE THAN 1 ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ONLY ONE INFANT SHALL ACCOMPANY EACH ADULT
PASSENGER
ANY ADDITIONAL INFANT WILL BE CHARGED 67 PCT
OF THE ADULT FARE AND A SEAT WILL BE RESERVED
[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[Day/Time]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[Seasonality]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[Minimum Stay]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.
[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Voluntary Changes]
NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.
[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.
[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
This is for the virgin/NZ/SQ combination
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[Rule Application & Other Conditions] NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SQ/NZ/VS JOINT ROUND THE WORLD ESCAPADE FARE VIA THE PACIFIC APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW/ROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNEYS. OTHER CONDITIONS A - THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICES ON SQ/NZ/VS/MI/BD. BOOKING CODES - BOOKING CLASS - BUSINESS ECONOMY SQ D M NZ -INTERNATIONAL-EXCPT TRANS-TASMAN / PACIFIC ISL Z T NZ -TRANS-TASMAN / PACIFIC ISL Z M NZ-DOMESTIC- Y H MI C/J Y VS Z X BD-BKNG ON/BFR31MAR11 D Q BD-BKNG ON/AFTR1APR11 D V OPEN JAW TRAVEL IS PERMITTED ONLY - 1- WITHIN USA/CANADA/CARIBBEAN 2- WITHIN EUROPE 3-WITHIN SOUTH EAST ASIA/JAPAN/KOREA 4- WITHIN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC SUB AREA 5- WITHIN SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT B -1- WHERE BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT AVAILABLE PASSENGERS WILL TRAVEL IN PREMIUM ECONOMY AND ECONOMY CLASS WITHOUT COMPENSATION 2- FARES A- ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE B- WHEN SOLD OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY OF COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL THE APPLICABLE LOCAL CURRENCY FARES SHALL BE CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF SALE AT BSR C- PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE PASSENGER SHALL NOT BE ABSORBED BY THE CARRIERS NOTE- PACIFIC ISLANDS -BETWEEN AKL AND PPT/NAN/RAR/APW/TBU/NOU/NLK/IUE/ VLI V.V THE ESCAPADE MUST INCLUDE A MINIMUM OF ONE INTERNATIONAL SECTOR ON AT LEAST 2 PARTICIPATING CARRIERS NO MORE THAN 16 COUPONS PERMITTED IN AN ENTIRE JOURNEY INCLUDING FOR ANY SUBSEQUENTLY REROUTED JOURNEY. [Eligibility] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 2-11 YEARS OF AGE NOT PERMITTED. [Flight Application] THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING NZ FLIGHTS 360 THROUGH 365 NZ FLIGHTS 378 THROUGH 379 NZ FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4049 NZ FLIGHTS 4080 THROUGH 4999 NZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999 NZ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999 SQ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 2499 SQ FLIGHTS 2577 THROUGH 5002 SQ FLIGHTS 5399 THROUGH 5999 SQ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999 SQ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999 VS FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 6999 VS FLIGHTS 7900 THROUGH 9999 MI FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 5800 MI FLIGHTS 5901 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BD FLIGHT ANY MI FLIGHT ANY NZ FLIGHT ANY SQ FLIGHT ANY VS FLIGHT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. JOURNEY MUST INCLUDE ONLY ONE TRANSATLANTIC AND ONE TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. THE COUNTRY/CITY OF ORIGIN MUST NOT BE TRANSITED. NZ CODESHARE SERIES 4010 - 4011 / 4091 - 4092 SERVICES PERMITTED BETWEEN LAX -PPT/NAN AND V.V. WHEN ISSUED ON NZ/VS PAPER. [Advance Reservations/Ticketing] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A.RESERVATIONS 1.RESERVATIONS FOR 1ST OUTBOUND FLIGHT INCLUDING FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 BEFORE DEPARTURE. EXCEPTION FOR SALE IN AUSTRALIA/IRELAND/ UK/FOR TRAVEL EX AUSTRALIA/IRELAND/U.K./ RESERVATION FOR THE FIRST OUTBOUND FLIGHT /INCLUDING THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR/ MAY BE CONFIRMED ANY TIME BEFORE DEPARTURE. EXCEPTION FOR BUSINESS CLASS TRAVEL ORIG IN INDIA RESERVATION FOR THE FIRST OUTBOUND FLIGHT INCLUDING THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR MAY BE CONFIRMED ANY TIME BEFORE DEPARTURE. 2.CHANGE OF RESERVATION ON THE FIRST OUTBOUND FLIGHT INCLUDING THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR IS PERMITTED. SUBJECT TO PARAGRAPH 16.B REBOOKING AND REROUTING B.TICKETING 1.PAYMENT/TICKETING DEADLINE 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. EXCEPTION A.EX UK/IRELAND TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF BOOKING. BOOKINGS MADE WITHIN 14 DAYS OF DEPARTURE ARE TO BE TICKETED WITHIN 72 HOURS. B.THIS DOES NOT APPLY FOR SALE IN AUSTRALIA FOR TRAVEL EX AUSTRALIA. 2.FARES BASIS/TICKET DESIGNATOR CODES A.BUSINESS CLASS CRWESC/CRTWESC/ZRWESC B. ECONOMY CLASS YRWESC/YRTWESC EXCEPT 1.EX AUSTRALIA YLRWESC/YHRWESC 2.EX U.K/IRELAND CRWESC/CRWESC2/CRWESC3/CRWESC4 ZRWESC/ZRWESC2/ZRWESC3/ZRWESC4 YLRWESC/YLRWESC2/YLRWESC3/YLRWESC4 YFRWESC/YFRWESC2/YFRWESC3/YFRWESC4 YKRWESC/YKRWESC2/YKRWESC3/YKRWESC4 YJRWESC/YJRWESC2/YJRWESC3/YJRWESC4 YHRWESC/YHRWESC2/YHRWESC3/YHRWESC4 3.TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ/NZ/VS TICKET STOCKS OR VALIDATION PLATE. [Maximum Stay] TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. [Stopovers] UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT 3 IN AUSTRALIA 3 IN NEW ZEALAND. STOPOVER ALLOWED ONLY ONCE AT THE SAME POINT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. STOPOVERS SUBJECT TO BEING WITHIN APPLICABLE MPM. PERMITTED STOPOVERS WITHIN AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND MUST INCLUDE THE GATEWAY POINTS OF ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE. [Transfers] UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. 1. SURFACE SECTORS AT PASSENGER OWN EXPENSE MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE SUM OF TICKETED POINT MILE -TPM- FOR ENTIRE JOURNEY. 2. BACKTRACKING PERMITTED [Combinations] ROUND TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO FORM SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/CIRCLE TRIPS. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. END-ON-END NOTE - SIDE TRIP COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. A SEPARATE TICKET MUST BE ISSUED EXCEPT WHERE THE THE DOMESTIC FARE BY DEFINITION IS COMBINABLE WITH INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL. [Surcharges] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. VS PREMIUM ECONOMY SURCHARGE 1 - VS PREMIUM ECONOMY IS AVAILABLE TO PASSENGERS WHO HAVE PURCHASED AN ECONOMY CLASS ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE TICKET UPON PAYMENT OF THE FOLLOWING CHARGES - A-FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING UK - GBP235 PER SECTOR B.FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING OUTSIDE UK - USD450 PER SECTOR. 2 - THE AMOUNT IS TO BE CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF PAYMENT AT BANKERS SELLING RATE 3 - THE SURCHARGE MUST BE REFLECTED AS A Q-SURCHARGE AFTER THE APPLICABLE SECTOR LHR-SYD V.V. SPECIFIED AS 2 SECTORS 4-CHILDREN AND INFANTS OCCUPYING A SEAT PAY THE FULL PREMIUM ECONOMY SURCHARGE 5 - VS PREMIUM ECONOMY IS BOOKED IN K-CLASS B. VS ECONOMY CLASS UPSELL SURCHARGE FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING UK/IE- 1.PASSENGERS MAY BOOK VS SECTORS IN Q CLASS UPON PAYMENT OF GBP50 PER SECTOR OR M CLASS UPON PAYMENT OF GBP90 PER SECTOR. 2.THE CHARGE IS TO BE COLLECTED AS A SURCHARGE AND NOTED WITH A -Q- AFTER THE APPLICABLE SECTOR. 3.FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE LON-SYD V.V. IS CONSIDERED TO BE TWO SECTORS. C/NZ BUSINESS PREMIER UPSELL SURCHARGE APPLICABLE TO BUSINESS CLASS FARE ONLY 1 - WHERE Z CLASS IS NOT AVAILABLE OR NOT OFFERED PASSENGERS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED - IN D CLASS UPON PAYMENT OF A ONE WAY GBP 180 SECTOR SURCHARGE OR IN C CLASS UPON PAYMENT OF A ONE WAY GBP 370 SECTOR SURCHARGE 2 - FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE AKL-LON V.V. IS CONSIDERED TO BE TWO SECTORS 3 - CHILDREN/INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY 4-THE CHARGE IS TO BE COLLECTED AS A SURCHARGE AND NOTED WITH A -Q- AFTER THE APPLICABLE SECTOR D - NZ ECONOMY CLASS UPSELL SURCHARGE FOR TRAVEL ORIGINATING UK/IE 1 - PASSENGERS MAY BOOK NZ SECTORS IN W CLASS UPON PAYMENT OF GBP 50 PER SECTOR OR V CLASS ON PAYMENT OF GBP90 PER SECTOR. 2 - THE CHARGE IS TO BE COLLECTED AS A SURCHARGE AND NOTED WITH A -Q- AFTER THE APPLICABLE SECTOR 3 - FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE LON-AKL V.V. IS CONSIDERED TO BE TWO SECTORS E.NZ PACIFIC PREMIUM ECONOMY SURCHARGE FOR TRAVEL AKL-SFO V.V. AKL/CHC-NRT V.V. AKL-YVR V.V. AKL-LAX V.V. AKL-HKG V.V. AKL-PVG V.V. AKL-LON V.V. AKL-PEK V.V. HKG-LON V.V. LAX-LON V.V. 1 - NZ PACIFIC PREMIUM ECONOMY IS AVAILABLE FOR PASSENGERS WHO HAVE PURCHASED AN ECONOMY CLASS ROUND-THE-WORLD FARE TICKET UPON PAYMENT OF GBP 300 PER SECTOR THE AMOUNT IS TO BE CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF PAYMENT AT BSR. 2 - THE CHARGE IS TO BE COLLECTED AS A SURCHARGE AND NOTED WITH A -Q- AFTER THE APPLICABLE SECTOR 3 - CHILDREN AND INFANTS DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY 4-NZ PACIFIC PREMIUM ECONOMY IS BOOKED IN A CLASS 5 - FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS RULE AKL-LON V.V. IS CONSIDERED TO BE TWO SECTORS F - BD SIDE TRIPS TO/FROM LHR 1 - RT ECONOMY/FLEXIBLE ECONOMY CLASS SECTORS TO/FROM LHR ON BD SERVICES ARE INCLUDED IN FARE LEVELS FROM BHD/DUB/EDI/GLA/MAN/ABZ. SEE PARAGRAPH 00.B.04 FOR BD BOOKING CLASSES NOTE BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS TRAVEL IN BD FLEXIBLE ECONOMY CABIN G / SQ BUSINESS CLASS Q-SURCHARGES ON B773ER/A380/ A345 SERVICES AIRCRAFT EQUIPMENT TYPE CODES- AET CODE- 388 EQUIPMENT TYPE- A380 AET CODE- 77W EQUIPMENT TYPE- B773ER AET CODE- 345 EQUIPMENT TYPE- A340-500 1 - THE SURCHARGE IN THE MATRIX BELOW WILL BE LEVIED ON BUSINESS CLASS RTW PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON SQ B773ER AND A380/A345 SERVICES THIS INCLUDES THE SQ OPERATING B773ER/A380/A345 SERVICES MARKETED UNDER THE VS AND NZ FLIGHT NUMBERS WHERE APPLICABLE 3-SQ A380/B773ER/A345 BUSINESS CLASS Q-SURCHARGE MATRIX ROUTE OR V.V. VIA 345 SIN-AMERICAS LAX/EWR USD 900 VIA 388/77W 1. SIN - AMERICAS /VIA PA OR AT / USD 600 2. JAPAN/KOREA/HONG KONG - AMERICAS/VIA PA/USD 500 3. EUROPE-AMERICAS/VIA AT/ USD 500 4. SIN - EUROPE USD 500 5. SIN - SOUTH WEST PACIFIC USD 400 6. SIN - SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT USD 300 7.SIN KOREA/JAPAN/SOUTH EAST ASIA USD 300 8.WITHIN EUROPE USD 300 4 - THE SURCHARGE AMOUNT MUST BE REFLECTED AS A Q-SURCHARGE AFTER THE B773ER/A380/A345 SECTOR. DISCOUNTS- 5-CHILDREN AND INFANT DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. NO OTHER DISCOUNTS APPLY. [Sales Restrictions] FOOTNOTE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 27APR10. FARE RULE FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY SQ OR NZ. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF SQ OR NZ. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY SQ OR VS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF SQ OR VS. OR - FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY SQ OR MI. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF SQ OR MI. [Penalties] CANCELLATIONS CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. 1.FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING EX UNITED STATES/SINGAPORE /JAPAN/AUSTRALIA/INDIA A. REFUNDS FOR CANCELLATIONS/NO SHOW 1 - PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL A . MORE THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE - FULL REFUND B. LESS THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE - 25 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL FARE PAID IS NOT REFUNDABLE EXCEPTION - FOR SALES IN AUSTRALIA/FOR TRAVEL EX AUSTRALIA - USD75 PENALTY APPLIES BEFORE DEPARTURE 2 - AFTER TRAVEL HAS COMMENCED - THE REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE NORMAL FARE FOR THE JOURNEY COMPLETED LESS 25 PERCENT EXCEPTION - FOR SALES IN AUSTRALIA/ FOR TRAVEL EX AUSTRALIA THE REFUND IF ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE NORMAL FARE FOR THE JOURNEY COMPLETED. 3- IN THE EVENT OF CERTIFIED DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGER/IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS THE FULL REFUND APPLIES CHANGES FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION NOTE - A- MORE THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE B- LESS THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE/AFTER TRAVEL HAS COMMENCED - A. FIRST OUTBOUND SECTOR INCLUDING FIRST INTERNATIONAL- CHARGE USD75 PER TRANSACTION EXCEPTION - THIS PENALTY DOES NOT APPLY FOR SALE IN AUSTRALIA /FOR TRAVEL EX AUSTRALIA B- OTHER SECTORS 1.DATE AND/OR FLIGHT NUMBER CHANGES - PERMITTED WITHOUT CHARGE 2.ROUTING CHANGES REQUIRING TICKET REISSUANCE -CHARGE USD75 PER TRANSACTION EXCEPTION - IF APPLYING SECTOR SURCHARGES / SUPPLEMENTS OR UPGRADING TO A HIGHER FARE TYPE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY. IN ALL CASES LOCAL SERVICE FEES OR ADMIN CHARGES MAY APPLY C.IN THE EVENT OF CERTIFIED DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGERS/IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS CHANGES ARE PERMITTED FREE. NOTE- -THE MILEAGE EXTENSION SURCHARGE IS FULLY REFUNDABLE. -CHILDREN AND INFANTS DISCOUNTS ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO REBOOKING/ REROUTING CHARGES. CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE MAY BE MADE BY VS/SQ/NZ/MI/BD REGARDLESS OF TICKETING CARRIER EXCEPT WHEN NZ CODESHARE SERIES 4010 - 4011 / 4091 - 4092 SERVICES BETWEEN LAX-PPT/NAN ARE INCLUDED IN WHICH CASE ONLY VS/NZ MAY REISSUE THE TICKET. 2. FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING EX UNITED KINGDOM/IRELAND A. REFUNDS FOR CANCELLATIONS/NO-SHOW 1.PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUE - PERMITTED WITH NO CHARGE 2.AFTER TICKET ISSUE - REFUNDS PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF GBP150.00. B. AFTER TRAVEL HAS COMMENCED REFUNDS ARE NOT PERMITTED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. C. REBOOKING AND REROUTING 1.PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUE - UNLIMITED CHANGES PERMITTED AT NO CHARGE. 2.AFTER TICKET ISSUE - DATE CHANGES PERMITTED AT NO CHARGE.LOCAL SERVICE CHARGE MAY APPLY. ROUTING CHANGES REQUIRING TICKET REISSUE PERMITTED AT GBP50.00 PER TRANSACTION. EXCEPTION IF APPLYING SECTOR SURCHARGES / SUPPLEMENTS OR UPGRADING TO A HIGHER FARE TYPE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY. IN ALL CASES LOCAL SERVICE FEES OR ADMIN CHARGES MAY APPLY D. IN THE EVENT OF CERTIFIED DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGERS/IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS CHANGES ARE PERMITTED FREE. NOTE- THE MILEAGE EXTENSION SURCHARGE IS FULLY REFUNDABL E CHILDREN AND INFANTS DISCOUNTS ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO REBOOKING/REROUTING CHARGES. CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE MAY BE MADE BY VS/SQ/NZ/MI /BD REGARDLESS OF TICKETING CARRIER EXCEPT WHEN NZ CODESHARE SERIES 4000-4019 / 4080-4099 SERVICES BETWEEN LAX-PPT/NAN ARE INCLUDED IN WHICH CASE ONL Y VS/NZ MAY REISSUE THE TICKET.IN ALL CASES SERVICE FEES OR ADMINISTRATION CHARGES MAY APPLY. [HIP/Mileage Exceptions] NOTE - A-JOURNEYS ARE SUBJECTED TO A MPM OF 29000 MILES B-TRAVEL MUST BE WITHIN THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE -MPM-.HOWEVER ADDITIONAL MILES CAN BE PURCHASED SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF PARAGRAPH C BELOW. C-WHEN TOTAL TPM EXCEEDS THE MPM PASSENGERS MAY PURCHASE ONE THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL MILEAGE OPTIONS - BUSINESS ECONOMY 1500 MILES USD195 USD130 3000 MILES USD390 USD260 4500 MILES USD585 USD390 THE AMOUNT IS TO BE SHOWN SEPARATELY IN THE FARE CALCULATION BOX AS A Q-SURCHARGE [Ticket Endorsement] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A.TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ/NZ/VS TICKET STOCKS OR VALIDATION PLATE B.TKT MUST SHOW BY USE OF AN INSERT OR STICKER THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECAL FARE SUBJECT TO SPECIAL CONDITIONS C.RESTRICTIONS/ENDORSEMENT BOX- INDICATE -VALID ON SQ/NZ/VS/MI/BD ONLY/NON-ENDORSABLE- 4.ENDORSEMENT IS NOT REQUIRED BETWEEN SQ/NZ/VS/MI/BD [Children Discounts] CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. UNACCOMPANIED CHILD AGED 2-11 YEARS - TRAVEL NOT PERMITTED AT THIS FARE. OR - THERE IS NO DISCOUNT FOR AN INFANT UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE AND NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. OR - THERE IS NO DISCOUNT FOR AN INFANT UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE AND OCCUPYING A SEAT. OR - THERE IS NO DISCOUNT FOR A UNACCOMPANIED INFANT UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. [Tour Conductor Discounts] TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT. [Agent Discounts] AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT. [Miscellaneous Provisions] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ECONOMY/PREMIUM ECONOMY/BUSINESS PASSENGERS MAY CARRY 2 PIECES AT 23KGS PER PIECE. [Day/Time] NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. [Seasonality] NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. [Minimum Stay] NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. [Blackout Dates] NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. [Accompanied Travel] ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. [Travel Restrictions] NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. [All Other Discounts] NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS. [Groups] NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. [Tours] NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. [Visit Another Country] NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. [Deposits] NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. [Voluntary Changes] NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND. [Voluntary Refunds] NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
Aug 27, 2011, 12:39 pm
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: SLC
Programs: UA 1K MM; IC RA
Posts: 759
Thanks for the great info Unterwegs and Orwaid.
I had forgotten about the KVS tool... remember when it first came out here on FT and was quite a sensation. I will subscribe to it and review my options for this trip.
I had forgotten about the KVS tool... remember when it first came out here on FT and was quite a sensation. I will subscribe to it and review my options for this trip.
Sep 6, 2011, 9:01 pm
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Floating around
Programs: UA 1K (1MM), DL Gold (1MM), Marriott LTT
Posts: 10,345
Barring the comment above my post, I'm wondering if anyone can offer insight into RTW on *A.
I need to leave next week on something close to the following itinerary:
SEA -> DXB -> AMM -> HKG -> SIN -> KUL -> SEA
I was using the Book & Fly took on *A's website and in business it came out to around $13K. Coach was somewhere around $7K.
How do I find deals like the F deal on SQ? Do I just call a Star Alliance carrier and ask them to book the ticket for me?
I've read all the FAQ and I think I understand it and the only thing I can gather is booking through an airline is far more flexible than booking through the *A website. True?
Thanks in advance.
-RM
I need to leave next week on something close to the following itinerary:
SEA -> DXB -> AMM -> HKG -> SIN -> KUL -> SEA
I was using the Book & Fly took on *A's website and in business it came out to around $13K. Coach was somewhere around $7K.
How do I find deals like the F deal on SQ? Do I just call a Star Alliance carrier and ask them to book the ticket for me?
I've read all the FAQ and I think I understand it and the only thing I can gather is booking through an airline is far more flexible than booking through the *A website. True?
Thanks in advance.
-RM
Sep 7, 2011, 1:22 am
#10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
You will get a lot of indirect flights if you want to fly *A. And you'd better hurry because you have to book an RTW a few days in advance.
You will not get more information when trying to book directly with one of the *A carriers. You might even get less information and a manual booking fee.
The *A book-and-fly tools show all available flights and issues you ticket immediately, so why go somewhere else.
A (good) travel agent might get you a better deal. That might not be the *A RTW.
You will not get more information when trying to book directly with one of the *A carriers. You might even get less information and a manual booking fee.
The *A book-and-fly tools show all available flights and issues you ticket immediately, so why go somewhere else.
A (good) travel agent might get you a better deal. That might not be the *A RTW.
Sep 7, 2011, 5:01 am
#11
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Stuck on this planet - mainly in STR and LAX
Posts: 5,019
Another vote for using a travel agent. The good oes will come up with some creative solutions.
One idea:
Look for Emirates. US gateway to one of your asian cities, back from one other (open yaw with a stop in Dubai).
Side trip to AMM from the stop.
Extra tickets inside Asia.
One idea:
Look for Emirates. US gateway to one of your asian cities, back from one other (open yaw with a stop in Dubai).
Side trip to AMM from the stop.
Extra tickets inside Asia.
Sep 8, 2011, 5:39 pm
#12
Moderator, All Nippon Airways and Japan
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TYO
Programs: NH SFC (*G), JL JGP (OWE), AS MVP, WOH E, IHG SE
Posts: 3,908
Sep 9, 2011, 11:11 am
#13
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE, SPG Platinum, etc.
Posts: 31
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I found this routing through a travel agent just today, with about a 23-day lead time, for $7900 all in, in economy with mostly upgradeable fares. Took a couple of longer legs for extra miles. It's a work trip.
I didn't have the time to figure it all out (haven't done my own booking / routing here) but it's all with *A except for one Australian internal flight.
Wish I had had time to figure it all out and see how much the agent is taking.
I didn't have the time to figure it all out (haven't done my own booking / routing here) but it's all with *A except for one Australian internal flight.
Wish I had had time to figure it all out and see how much the agent is taking.
Sep 9, 2011, 7:00 pm
#14
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: UA 1k, AA EXPLT, NZ GE, VA PLT Hyatt Diam, Marr Plat, HH Diam
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