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A number of threads have been started with members asking for guidance on which mileage programme they should join. In order to help users I have started this thread to allow people to post their requests for information here and to allow people to offer assistance.

For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
(7) Preferred Airlines
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)


GENERAL INFORMATION:


If you fly less than 50k miles per year: it is almost guaranteed that your choice will be between Aegean Airlines, Turkish Airlines, and Asiana Airlines. Please look up these airlines' frequent flier programs, and make a decision as to which best suits your needs.

Some considerations to take into account:

Airlines tend to treat members of their own frequent flier program better than members of other frequent flier programs. If you fly one of these airlines, it is recommended that you choose that airline.

Some airlines have better earning/redemption charts for your pattern. For example, if you fly on cheap fares on a certain airline often, Turkish might give you miles for it, while Aegean might not. However, Turkish Airlines might charge much more for the redemption that you want to make than Aegean.

Asiana Airlines offers lifetime Star Alliance Gold for 500k miles over life. The other 2 airlines do not offer this benefit.

Asiana Airlines has a credit card in the USA and some other countries. If you are interested in credit cards, check to make sure that the program that you join has a credit card in your country.
If you still aren't sure which frequent flyer program is for you after looking these up, feel free to ask on this thread.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 4:51 pm
  #361  
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
No free international upgrades on any carrier in *A...

Your best option is joining the FFP of the operating carrier that you are flying, that gives you the best shot at op-ups.

Alternatively, if you can choose any *A carrier that will get you *G with under 25k a year, like A3, TK, OZ, etc... This generally gets you improved service, and guaranteed lounge access (for a non-US FFP)...

I personally am a member of A3's FFP, and I am very happy with it^
Thanks for your reply. My domestic trips tend to be on US, while my international trips tend to be on UA or a UA codeshare. Are people generally happier with one or the other when it comes to US vs. UA?

Interesting thought about another *A plan. How are the redemption options--good for any *A member?
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Montacute
Thanks for your reply. My domestic trips tend to be on US, while my international trips tend to be on UA or a UA codeshare. Are people generally happier with one or the other when it comes to US vs. UA?

Interesting thought about another *A plan. How are the redemption options--good for any *A member?
For international, you are better off with UA because, you can choose economy plus seats as an Elite.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by snod08
For international, you are better off with UA because, you can choose economy plus seats as an Elite.
That's a good point. Thank you for making. Looks like I will be going with UA after all. Thanks for helping me stop secong-guessing myself!
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 12:08 am
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ROP or M&M

I apologize if this is a duplicate, didn't see that you could post here until now. Anyway, the details:



For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
Singapore

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
C

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Usually 25K to 50K but tends to be on the higher numbers

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc)
SQ PPS, LH M&M Senator

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Upgrades, Lounge


(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
Asiawide

(7) Preferred Airlines
SQ TG

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Business, and yes I can choose

I just wonder if it makes more sense to go with ROP since I fly almost exclusively with TG. The earn rate makes it harder to qualify for *G though and the ROP staff don't seem particularly helpful, unlike M&M.

They do have a new status level but its unclear how one can achieve it, other than being told its by invitation only.

thanks in advance
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by Emperorsr
I apologize if this is a duplicate, didn't see that you could post here until now. Anyway, the details:



For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
Singapore

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
C

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Usually 25K to 50K but tends to be on the higher numbers

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc)
SQ PPS, LH M&M Senator

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Upgrades, Lounge


(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
Asiawide

(7) Preferred Airlines
SQ TG

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Business, and yes I can choose

I just wonder if it makes more sense to go with ROP since I fly almost exclusively with TG. The earn rate makes it harder to qualify for *G though and the ROP staff don't seem particularly helpful, unlike M&M.

They do have a new status level but its unclear how one can achieve it, other than being told its by invitation only.

thanks in advance
What I suggest is to seriously research the difference in EQM and RDM earning between ROP and M&M for the fares you buy.
I suspect M&M will give you more of both.

In that case, why leave miles on the table?? Go with M&M then.
But if ROP gives you the same amount of earning potential, then stick to ROP, as you could have the occasional event of an operational upgrade to F.
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 9:35 am
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Location: Copenhagen
Programs: TK*G, Delta Gold
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(1) What is your home airport? CPH
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? M
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? on *A: between 20000 and 40000, with increasing tendency
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (M&M SEN with co-branded credit card to get some additional miles for awards, A3*S with 4000 miles) I am also EBB (no reason for trying to get to EBS) with a co-branded credit card to get some award/extra miles with them.
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? in priority order: 1) free lounge access, 2) additional luggage allowance, 3) seat-blocking, 4) award flights: intra-European Y
(6) Which routes do you fly most often one to two intercontinental a year plus about five to ten roundtrips in Europe (typically LH group -> 4 segments or 2000 (A3) - 3000 (M&M) miles
(7) Preferred Airlines in priority order: 1) LH/LX 2) SK
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) work, typically medium price M, hence neither cheapest nor full-flex. Trying to avoid SK for the two reasons of <100% mile earnings and expensive on board food/drinks.
Motivation:
For the status I am looking for the *G program where I can still have SOME use of the miles instead of throwing them away (e.g. intra-European awards or an overpriced shop like LH's worldshop).
I can't obtain EBG right now or maintain LH SEN so I'm looking for alternatives. I will however keep my LH/SK CCs and continue collecting extra/award miles with LH and SK, maybe even some flights after (re-)qualification. They both have more or less reasonable intra-European awards (prices and availability).



For the status I am thinking about going for Asiana Diamond. I am quite certain that I can maintain the status as 40K in two years seems quite manageable. I'd hit Diamond within a year if I choose my re-qualification period wisely. Advantages: 40K miles closer to lifetime *G, about three years of status. Can miss one (or more) year(s) on my way to lifetime status. Reliable program, no drastic changes expected. Allows uneven distribution of flights amongst two years (e.g. crediting 30k one year, 10k the other).

Disadvantages could be: I will most likely not fly Asiana in the near future. Cheap LH fares earn nothing, but can be avoided, so the latter is not a big reason.

Open questions: I don't know anything about intra-European awards (availability, earn/burn rate, taxes) and couldn't yet find out about it (can't be seen without enough miles in the account or I am blind). I will most likely not fly Asiana in the near future. Cheap LH fares earn nothing, but can be avoided, so the latter is not a big reason.



Alternatives could be Aegean Gold, it looks like three years of status right now as well. However program changes are rather likely in the near future (e.g. due to different thresholds, merger with Olympic, one year status period instead of the current three years good-will). Not possible to credit JK flights (big No Go in *A). Most SK classes earn nothing, but can be avoided.

Open questions: YQ/taxes amount for intra-European awards, availability, not sure what to think of earn/burn rate.


Last but not least the new JK program gives Gold based on > 30 *A segments per year.
Advantage: 1 year closer to lifetime *G (requires ten consecutive years). Probably easiest criteria ever for intra-European flying.
Disadvantage: Very unreliable carrier. Customer service quasi non-existent. Earn/burn rates dreadful, hence pretty much losing whatever I credit there. However could only credit the intra-European segments and put the intercontinental ones on LH or SK.

Opinions are highly appreciated! Also if someone can help with the open questions regarding awards on A3 miles and Asiana I'd be greatful. Thank you in advance.

Last edited by Zeehe; Aug 9, 2011 at 9:43 am
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 6:50 am
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Which programme

In a few months i will be flying around the globe. A part of this trip i will fly with star alliances. Approximately 14480 miles. With the miles i hope to book (get a discount) a trip back from my final destination (South Afrika). Home airport The Netherlands.
I almost never fly.

Which programme is the best for me?

Thanks.
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by sijz
In a few months i will be flying around the globe. A part of this trip i will fly with star alliances. Approximately 14480 miles. With the miles i hope to book (get a discount) a trip back from my final destination (South Afrika). Home airport The Netherlands.
I almost never fly.

Which programme is the best for me?

Thanks.
Sweet post!
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 3:39 pm
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Aeroplan or MileagePlus?

Debating whether to use my last return flight to South America for Mileage Plus or to start an Aeroplan account.

I have about 11k on Mileage Plus that will expire in Jan 2012 if I don't have any account activity.

But I'm Canadian so I can't really use any of United's credit card offers or anything, whereas in Canada I can open up an Aeroplan visa.

1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
YYZ (Toronto)

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
Y

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
<25K.

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc)
No. Been with MileagePlus since I was a kid.

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
good award redemption rates - since I likely won't reach any kind of status. Free lounge access would be nice.

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
A flight to Hong Kong once every couple years plus one or two domestic flights (Canada to US).

(7) Preferred Airlines
AC and United

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Pleasure
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 4:18 pm
  #370  
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alpaca jumper, with your low flying patterns (by FlyerTalker standards) any program where your miles won't expire/won't expire while keeping active/using a credit card would be the best. I'm personally not so good on NA programs, probably some other users might help more here, but if an Aeroplan account with a credit card would keep your miles from expiring, then probably choosing them would be best.

On the other hand, if you could manage to make 19k miles within 1 year, or 3k miles in one year and then 16k miles in one year, A3 would have *G status for you, and apparently miles in their program don't expire...
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:37 pm
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Best FFP & Credit Card Combo

Just started my career and I am expecting to make a couple of flights regularly each year. I am looking for a good Frequent Flyer Program and a Credit Card to supplement.

(1) What is your home airport? SeaTac
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Economy(I can afford to pay full fare now)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? Planning about 25k.
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? None. (Enrolled in UA)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Ease of maintaining Elite Status(See CC). Lounge access is nice.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Mostly SEA <=> ORD & (1) SEA <=> NRT each year.
(7) Preferred Airlines? Preferably Star Alliance (UA/ANA). But I could go Skyteam or OneWorld.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure. If I ever get that rare work travel, its lowest cost option only.


I am just starting out, and hope to travel more moving forward through the years. I would like to get a Credit Card linked to the FFP and make it my primary card of choice to maximize rewards.


I appreciate any advice you can provide me.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 1:57 am
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Which *A FFP for China-based flyer?

(1) What is your home airport? WXN, flying out of CKG, CAN, PVG, or PEK. HKG also possible, but not preferred. Home is LAX.
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? ~35k int'l, ~5k intra-Asia
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? CI Gold
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Award tickets and upgrades
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? China-LAX
(7) Preferred Airlines? No pref.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both.

Additional comments: I understand that the amount of miles I fly is relatively low and it would be difficult for me to attain and maintain status. As such and since I'm based in China and would more often than not be flying Asian airlilnes, I prioritize earn and burn potential over status. I'd prefer a FFP with a robust shopping portal and other non-flying earning methods.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 9:12 am
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Johannesburg
Programs: UA Y1K
Posts: 7
(1) What is your home airport? JNB
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Y
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 70k-120k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? UA 1K
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Preferred seating, International upgrades (when with Wife) and lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
JNB -> IAD (*1),
JNB -> LAX (*1)
JNB -> Other US airport (*1),
JNB -> LHR (*1),
JNB -> KUL (at least *2),
JNB -> HKG (*1)

(7) Preferred Airlines? *A due to airports flown to.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure

The only reason I am in the MP programme as I was living in the UK for 45 years, and only moved to SA 6 years ago.
With the proposed changes in the MP programme, I reckon that I may not meet the revenue requirements for the proposed new UACO programme if it is for UACO segment only?
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 9:14 am
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Programs: UA Y1K
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1K looking for advice

Sorry forgot to say thanks in advance in my post.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by gallenem
Sorry forgot to say thanks in advance in my post.
the LH SEN status may be a very good one for you to pursue as you definitely put the miles in. They generally treat SENs well.
Lounge access through Star Alliance system for you and wife.

LH does not have E+ like UA...but you could possibly get exit rows, etc.
They occasionally provide op-ups for their frequent flyers. (and you get an upgrade certificate or two for reaching SEN status).

Caution: All LH fares do not earn 100% miles! Beware when you purchase tickets.
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