*A Circle Pacific and RTW fares
 

Two questions...

Does anyone ever use these?

I am trying to find out if the tables below are still accurate but drawing a blank....

Thanks!

Around the world fares in US $:
Mileage
Coach
Business
First

29,000 Miles
$3,800
$7,400
$9,800

34,000 Miles
$4,400
$8,450
$11,200

39,000 Miles
$5,150
$9,950
$13,200

Listings below are samples only, the number of actual routings are only limited by the destinations you which to visit.

29,000 MILES: CHICAGO - SAN FRANCISCO - HONOLULU - AUCKLAND - CHRISTCHURCH - SYDNEY - SINGAPORE - BANGKOK - DELHI - FRANKFURT - ROME - MUNICH - MADRID - LONDON - NEW YORK - CHICAGO

34,000 Miles: CHICAGO - TOKYO - BEIJING - BANGKOK - KATMANDU -SINGAPORE - BOMBAY - FRANKFURT - RIO DE JANEIRO - BUENOS AIRES - SANTIAGO - MEXICO CITY - CHICAGO

39,000 MILES: CHICAGO - MEXICO CITY - SANTIAGO - RIO DE JANEIRO - MADRID - FRANKFURT - JOHANNESBURG - SINGAPORE - SYDNEY - AUCKLAND - HAWAII- CHICAGO

These are just a few of the possible routings, thousands of different routing possibilities can be utilized with theses fares.

Circle Pacific fares: Mileage
Coach
Business
First Class

22,000 Miles
$2,800
$4,900
$7,100

26,000 Miles
$3,400
$5,900
$8,000

29,000 Miles
$5,149
$6,300
$8,700

A circular trip around the Pacific Ocean, limited by a maximum mileage of 22,000 or 26,000 miles.

Airfare is available in First Class, Business Class and Economy Class.

Travel must originate and terminate in the same country, which must to be one of the following: Australia, Brunei, Canada or USA, China, Cambodia, Cook Islands, Fiji, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, New Caledonia, New Zealand, Philippines, Western Samoa, Singapore, Tahiti, Taiwan, Thailand, Tonga, Vietnam.

For travel to/from/via the USA or Canada, only the following cities may be included in your itinerary: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Las Vegas, Honolulu, Vancouver.

The Airfare is valid on most flights operated by Star Alliance member airlines Air Canada, Air New Zealand, All Nippon Airways, Singapore Airlines, Thai, United Airlines and Varig serving the countries mentioned above.

The ticket has to be purchased 7 days in advance but reservations for many sectors of the journey may be changed during the itinerary (subject to certain restrictions).

As long as the routing is not changed, most reservations may even be changed at any time (subject to certain restrictions

I've heard of people doing this, but only on a "friend-of-a-friend" basis.

Now that I see the prices for business-class though, I am interested to say the least.

You will find more information on these fare products in the Star Alliance forum.

For pricing and other fare options, you can also use ITA (and KVS I believe). The fares are dependent on where you start your trip from. So you may find that it is cheaper to begin your trip at say ICN.

These have been popular over the years, but I believe that in the past couple years the fares have increased considerably especially if you start your trip in North America.

We used 34000 miles J class RTW tickets once, some eight or nine years ago. Originating from Europe.

Used it, together with a flexible return to Europe that we already had, for (1) a trip to Asia and Australia, then back home at YYC, and (2) a subsequent trip to Brazil, starting at YYC and ending at YYZ. Bought additional round-trip YYZ-YYC, and ended up with returns to Europe.

All in all, price was competitive with three Y tickets, one to HK and Taiwan, one to Australia and one to Brazil. However, price of the RTW was somewhat lower then, and individual tickets probably higher.

In addition, there are more discounted J fares (Z fares etc.) available nowadays, and there are a number of additional charges on these RTW fares. Such as, AC when flying on a 777, some SQ legs, etc.

This summer, we spent a few months in Europe, and then we went to Asia. My wife used one of these nice Aeroplan mini RTW tickets, which worked very nicely. For myself, I looked into RTW fares. But I found a Z fare from Germany to China just a bit above CAD 2000. Add a couple of latitude + upgrade, and given that I need to go back to Japan next month, I figure that my trip to Europe plus two trips to Asia, all flown in front, including the flight to Japan for which it is hard/expensive to get a confirmed upgrade at the time of reservation, won't cost me more than CAD 8k.

An RTW ticket would cost more and would not have included my trip to Japan. Would also have been complicated to expense.

Those numbers for the Circle Pacific look a bit out of date to me. IIIRC, the J fares went from ~$5K to $8K about a year or so ago. It used to be a great deal unti then.

Time flies - it was over two years ago (May 2008). I remember because we got in under the wire booking im March 2008.

You might have given us the source of this information? Because it is in fact well out of date: Varig was kicked out of *A in January 2007.

cheers,

Henry

This site has some info as well as links to *A's pricing calculator. You can build an itinerary and it will price it for you.

Star Alliance

Actually, you cannot use ITA for these types of fares, however, the KVS Tool does give you access to real-time prices and fare rules for all RTW fares and from all departure points worldwide:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
[KVS Availability Tool 5.7.4/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

The *A website has a handy-dandy tool for itinerary planning and fare calculation

http://www.staralliance.com/en/fares/

i called UA to check on the fares you stated above and the fares listed ex USA are much!! higher...eg Circle Pacific coach 22K miles is $4500++

Are these fares really ex US or ex some other region?

This thread is still quite short, yet you obviously didn't even bother to read it through before (a) quoting the entire original long message and (b) asking a question that has already been answered in the discussion. Why did you do that?

No, these are not valid fares. The information in the original post has been established as old and out of date.

cheers,

Henry

Thanks for all the info everyone - busy playing with routings on the *A site!

Maybe I missed it, but I cannot find fares for ex-US *A RTW. I'm interested in both economy and business. Does anyone have these or can they point me to them? TIA.

This should give you some idea: http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...otions/rtw.jsp or http://www.airtimetable.com/star_all...orld_fares.htm
But they might not be the most recent prices.